From: Hannes Laimer <h.laimer@proxmox.com>
To: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH docs/gui-tests/manager/network/proxmox{-ve-rs,-perl-rs} v3 00/13] Add IS-IS protocol to fabrics
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2026 10:54:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d8993760-72b7-4591-abc0-b6b154cb5857@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apaH8tEyoH-A-irA@luna.proxmox.com>
On 2026-09-01 10:33, Gabriel Goller wrote:
> On 01.09.2026 09:09, Hannes Laimer wrote:
>> On 2026-08-31 14:59, Gabriel Goller wrote:
>>> On 31.08.2026 14:27, Gabriel Goller wrote:
>>>> On 31.08.2026 10:48, Hannes Laimer wrote:
>>>>> Aside from these very tiny nits/questions, looks very good to me:
>>>>> - could we have the same `network_type`-nob here that we introduced for
>>>>> OSPF?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, makes sense. ISIS supports network-type broadcast (unlike openfabric) and
>>>> even multi-access (e.g. multiple devices behind a switch).
>>>
>>> Oh, no wait I won't be adding this. ISIS only has broadcast and point-to-point
>>> available, and the default is broadcast. We use broadcast when an interface ip
>>> is set and point-to-point when no ip is set.
>>>
>>
>> yes, but we only need a specified ip for v4 broadcast, v6 does not. so
>> unnumbered v6 broadcast is not possible currently
>
> Hmm that's true. v6 broadcast works in two scenarios: link-local addresses
> (which IMO is not "unnumbered" -- but this is debatable :)), and because it uses
> ndp instead of arp, which doesn't have the weird address-selection.
>
> I thought a while back about this -- we don't need to duplicate the ipv6
> addresses to the interface. But then we should also remove the link-local
> addresses to make it clean.
i don't think we can, the ll would be the next-hop..
>
>> the ip for the nic is taken from the node config, so leaving the nic ip
>> fields empty doesn't necesarrily mean do p2p, p2p still needs a
>> next-htop target and for v4 this has to be specified. we just take the
>> ip from the node, which is fine. but leaving the ip field empty does not
>> imply do `p2p`, just: use the node-ip for either(p2p or broadcast).
>>
>> for v6 we could actually never copy the node-ip to the nic(we do that
>> now always), this would allow configuring unnumbered v6 broadcast or
>> p2p, which are both possible with v6.
>>
>> does isisd support v4-via-v6 routes? if it does we could just do v6
>> unnumbered in case no nic ip is specified and skip configuring the nic
>> ourself..
>
> Nope.
:/
>
>> either way, I still think the nob makes sense here, cause the the
>> existance of a specified ip on the nic doesn't really point either way
>> (bc or p2p), both need one, and for v6 can work without one
>
> Hmm yes you're right. We could add a knob like with ospf, where we have "auto"
> (the current heuristic to select network-type) and then "point-to-point" and
> "broadcast".
sounds good, im just not sure if 'auto' could be interpreted as 'find
out if there is multiple in this L2 domain'.. since this would be new,
maybe just the two explicit choices might be better, but fine either way
>
>>>>> - the warning in the UI could be warpped in a `gettext()`
>>>>
>>>> Agree.
>>>>
>>>>> - could we put `isisd => 1` behind an IS-IS fabric presence check? i
>>>>> guess that could break setups that have it enabled manually though..
>>>>
>>>> Hmm you're right I missed this. I somehow thought we always have it enabled like
>>>> bgpd, but turns out the user needs to manually enable it.
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
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Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-28 11:32 [PATCH docs/gui-tests/manager/network/proxmox{-ve-rs,-perl-rs} v3 00/13] Add IS-IS protocol to fabrics Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs v3 01/13] frr: add fabric properties to ISIS types and rename domain Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs v3 02/13] ve-config: add IS-IS fabric config parsing and frr config generation Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs v3 03/13] ve-config: add integration tests for IS-IS fabrics Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs v3 04/13] ve-config: add IS-IS status deserialization types Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs v3 05/13] frr: accept legacy ISIS domain field Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs v3 06/13] pve-rs: fabrics: add IS-IS protocol ifupdown config generation Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs v3 07/13] sdn: add IS-IS fabric status reporting Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH pve-network v3 08/13] fabrics: add IS-IS api types Gabriel Goller
2026-08-31 8:39 ` Hannes Laimer
2026-08-31 13:29 ` Gabriel Goller
2026-09-01 7:42 ` Hannes Laimer
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH pve-network v3 09/13] sdn: controllers: rename isis domain to fabric_id Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH pve-manager v3 10/13] fabrics: add IS-IS panels Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH pve-manager v3 11/13] sdn: add warning about IS-IS controller deprecation Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH pve-docs v3 12/13] sdn: add section about IS-IS fabric Gabriel Goller
2026-08-28 11:32 ` [PATCH pve-gui-tests v3 13/13] fabrics: add screenshots for IS-IS fabric and nodes Gabriel Goller
2026-08-31 8:48 ` [PATCH docs/gui-tests/manager/network/proxmox{-ve-rs,-perl-rs} v3 00/13] Add IS-IS protocol to fabrics Hannes Laimer
2026-08-31 12:27 ` Gabriel Goller
2026-08-31 12:59 ` Gabriel Goller
2026-09-01 7:09 ` Hannes Laimer
2026-09-01 8:33 ` Gabriel Goller
2026-09-01 8:54 ` Hannes Laimer [this message]
2026-09-01 8:58 ` Stefan Hanreich
2026-09-01 9:59 ` Gabriel Goller
2026-09-01 10:26 ` Gabriel Goller
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