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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Lukas Sichert <l.sichert@proxmox.com>, pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH storage v7 2/4] fix #7339: lvm: add discard action for removed volumes
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 14:37:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a73d6184-fa5a-48c6-9f9c-c10ff440609d@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <777e92d5-3d3e-4daf-8e2b-2061d931ef4e@proxmox.com>

Am 30.06.26 um 2:15 PM schrieb Fiona Ebner:
> Am 16.06.26 um 12:13 PM schrieb Lukas Sichert:
>> On LVM storages backed by thin-provisioned SAN LUNs, removing an LV does
>> not release the allocated space on the backing storage. Using LVM's
>> `issue_discards` can avoid that, but makes `lvremove` issue the discards
>> while holding the cluster-wide storage lock, which can hit the lock
>> timeout for large volumes.
>>
>> Add an `on-volume-remove` property with an initial `discard` action. The
>> cleanup worker issues the discard for the renamed LV before the final
>> remove, so the long-running operation happens outside the storage lock.
>> When combined with `saferemove`, the worker zeroes and discards the LV
>> range by range, avoiding allocation of the whole LV with zeroes on
>> thin-provisioned backing storage.
> 
> If a storage has
> on-volume-remove discard=1
> saferemove 0
> then zero-out is still done. I would expect only discard to be done then.

My bad. As Lukas pointed out off-list, this is actually the case. It's
just done outside the $secure_delete_cmd helper.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-30 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-16 10:13 [PATCH docs/manager/storage v7 0/4] fix #7339: lvmthick: add option to free storage for deleted VMs Lukas Sichert
2026-06-16 10:13 ` [PATCH storage v7 1/4] lvm: saferemove: zero out volumes range by range Lukas Sichert
2026-06-30 11:49   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-06-30 14:16     ` Lukas Sichert
2026-06-30 14:28       ` Fiona Ebner
2026-06-16 10:13 ` [PATCH storage v7 2/4] fix #7339: lvm: add discard action for removed volumes Lukas Sichert
2026-06-30 10:55   ` Michael Köppl
2026-06-30 12:14   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-06-30 12:20     ` Fiona Ebner
2026-06-30 12:37     ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2026-06-16 10:13 ` [PATCH manager v7 3/4] fix #7339: lvmthick: ui: add UI option to free storage Lukas Sichert
2026-06-30 11:38   ` Michael Köppl
2026-06-16 10:13 ` [PATCH docs v7 4/4] fix #7339: lvm: document discard option Lukas Sichert
2026-06-30 11:48   ` Michael Köppl
2026-06-30 12:50   ` Fiona Ebner

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