From: "Michael Köppl" <m.koeppl@proxmox.com>
To: "Lukas Wagner" <l.wagner@proxmox.com>,
"Michael Köppl" <m.koeppl@proxmox.com>,
pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com, pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH proxmox v4 15/39] notify: migrate PBS's and PVE's default matcher to expression syntax
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 10:19:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DMB7X9XJG825.23HQ3B635OP4M@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DMB70678FBP7.3E6ZLU7NBQXWO@proxmox.com>
On Thu Oct 22, 2026 at 9:35 AM CEST, Lukas Wagner wrote:
> On Wed Oct 21, 2026 at 4:39 PM CEST, Michael Köppl wrote:
>> On Mon Oct 12, 2026 at 3:13 PM CEST, Lukas Wagner wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> + use proxmox_match_expression::{not, any_of, all_of};
>>> +
>>> + let expression = any_of![
>>> + not!(
>>> + FieldMatcher::Exact {
>>> + field: "type".into(),
>>> + values: vec!["prune".into()],
>>> + }.into()
>>> + ),
>>> + all_of![
>>> + FieldMatcher::Exact {
>>> + field: "type".into(),
>>> + values: vec!["prune".into()],
>>> + }.into(),
>>> + SeverityMatcher {
>>> + severities: vec![Severity::Error, Severity::Warning, Severity::Notice],
>>
>> This is more of a question than actual feedback, I think, but how likely
>> is it that additional severity levels could be added in the future?
>
> Not impossible (e.g. maybe we'd want to have 'critical' at one point, to
> differentiate 'hey, your cluster is on fire' from a mere failed backup),
> but also not something that is on the immediate horizon, as far as I'm
> concerned.
>
>> Because the old default matcher was
>> not(type == prune AND severity == info), whereas this specifically
>> matches a list of severities that would need to be extended to remain
>> equivalent, no?
>>
>> In any case, couldn't this simply be
>>
>> ```
>> let expression = not!(all_of![
>> FieldMatcher::Exact {
>> field: "type".into(),
>> values: vec!["prune".into()],
>> }.into(),
>> SeverityMatcher {
>> severities: vec![Severity::Info],
>> }.into(),
>> ]);
>> ```
>>
>> to be equivalent to the old one? Or is there a reason this is not the
>> case?
>
> The main reason why I changed the representation was that the old one
> was really quite difficult to understand; I've asked multiple people in
> a poll and they all preferred representation used in this patch.
>
Yeah, true, I forgot about that. As I recall, I was even one of the
people who found the new representation more intuitive (and looking at
it again now, I still think so).
> I don't view the default matcher to be set in stone anyway, so having to
> change it if we add more severity levels does not really concern me.
>
> A patch series I'm currently working on moves the definition to the
> application code, which makes it also easier and quicker to adapt in the
> future.
Sounds good! Sorry for the noise then :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-22 8:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-12 13:13 [PATCH many v4 00/39] notifications: add nested match expressions Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 01/39] add new proxmox-match-expression crate Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 02/39] notify: log which matchers matched on a notification Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 03/39] notify: promote matcher to dir-style module Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 04/39] notify: fix doc comment Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 05/39] notify: matcher: break out severity matcher into submodule Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 06/39] notify: matcher: break out field " Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 07/39] notify: matcher: break out calendar " Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 08/39] notify: matcher: calendar: add basic unit test Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 09/39] notify: matcher: add InlineSeverityMatcher Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 10/39] notify: matcher: add InlineFieldMatcher Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 11/39] notify: matcher: add InlineCalendarMatcher Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 12/39] notify: matcher: add expression support Lukas Wagner
2026-10-21 14:39 ` Michael Köppl
2026-10-22 9:27 ` Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 13/39] notify: api: support new expression parameter Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 14/39] notify: api: add `get_matcher_as_expression` Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 15/39] notify: migrate PBS's and PVE's default matcher to expression syntax Lukas Wagner
2026-10-21 14:39 ` Michael Köppl
2026-10-22 7:35 ` Lukas Wagner
2026-10-22 8:19 ` Michael Köppl [this message]
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 16/39] notify: move legacy matcher keys behind feature flag Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 17/39] notify: matcher: don't allow empty field/severity matchers Lukas Wagner
2026-10-21 14:39 ` Michael Köppl
2026-10-22 7:45 ` Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox v4 18/39] notify: matcher: re-serialize expression on create/update Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox-widget-toolkit v4 19/39] notifications: increase matcher window width Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox-widget-toolkit v4 20/39] notifications: matcher: add support for match expressions Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox-widget-toolkit v4 21/39] notifications: matcher: add better calendar editor Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox-widget-toolkit v4 22/39] notifications: matcher: consistently use title case for UI elements Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 23/39] notification: opt into 'legacy-matchers' feature in proxmox-notify Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 24/39] api: notification: add 'migrate-to-expression' parameter to get_matcher Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:13 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 25/39] ui: notification: enable new matcher UI Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs v4 26/39] notify: move proxmox-notify bindings from common to pve-rs Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs v4 27/39] notify: matcher: pass matcher config / updater directly Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs v4 28/39] notify: opt into 'legacy-matchers' feature in proxmox-notify Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs v4 29/39] notify: add 'migrate_to_expression' parameter for get_matcher Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH pve-cluster v4 30/39] notify: adapt to changed module prefix for PVE::RS::Notify Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH pve-cluster v4 31/39] cluster: move pvecfg node version helpers from qemu-server Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH common v4 32/39] tools: move version_cmp() helper " Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH manager v4 33/39] vzdump: adapt to changed module prefix for PVE::RS::Notify Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH manager v4 34/39] api: notification: pass config/updater directly to rust bindings Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH manager v4 35/39] api: notification: get_matcher: add 'migrate-to-expression' parameter Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH manager v4 36/39] api: notification: add 'expression' to matcher parameter schema Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH manager v4 37/39] ui: notification: enable new matcher UI Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH manager v4 38/39] api: notification: reject matchers with expression if not supported by all nodes Lukas Wagner
2026-10-12 13:14 ` [PATCH proxmox-mail-forward v4 39/39] cargo: opt into legacy-matchers feature Lukas Wagner
2026-10-21 14:40 ` [PATCH many v4 00/39] notifications: add nested match expressions Michael Köppl
2026-10-22 9:51 ` Lukas Wagner
2026-10-22 12:24 ` superseded: " Lukas Wagner
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