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From: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Robert Obkircher <r.obkircher@proxmox.com>
Cc: pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH proxmox 02/28] pbs-api-types: add remote datastore append privs and role
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2026 16:24:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7d6ef56d-2800-4a87-8197-05cdc93686b1@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <178895667178.166380.3556210384656557808.b4-review@b4>

On 9/9/26 2:24 PM, Robert Obkircher wrote:
>> While allowing to push/backup to remotes like Remote.DatastoreBackup,
>> Remote.DatastoreAppend also allows creation of namespaces, but never
>> deletion/modification as Remote.DatastoreModify would imply, not even
>> for owned contents.
>>
>> The role is intended to allow local (source) user configuration for
>> immutable push sync jobs and is to be set on the user/token on the
>> remote's datastore ACL path.
>>
>> This is intended to be used with a remote user on the push target
>> having Datastore.Audit and Datastore.Append on the target datastore
>> or sub-namespace.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
>>
>> diff --git a/pbs-api-types/src/acl.rs b/pbs-api-types/src/acl.rs
>> index 9055dfab..f467db8d 100644
>> --- a/pbs-api-types/src/acl.rs
>> +++ b/pbs-api-types/src/acl.rs
>> @@ -61,6 +61,8 @@ constnamedbitmap! {
>>           PRIV_REMOTE_MODIFY("Remote.Modify");
>>           /// Remote.Read allows reading data from a configured `Remote`
>>           PRIV_REMOTE_READ("Remote.Read");
>> +        /// Remote.DatastoreAppend allows creating new snapshots and namespaces on remote datastores
>> +        PRIV_REMOTE_DATASTORE_APPEND("Remote.DatastoreAppend");
>>           /// Remote.DatastoreBackup allows creating new snapshots on remote datastores
>>           PRIV_REMOTE_DATASTORE_BACKUP("Remote.DatastoreBackup");
> 
> I would have expected privileges to be more atomic. i.e. wouldn't it
> make more sense to have one privilege for creating namespaces, one for
> creating snapshots, and separate ones for modifications or deletions?
> That could eliminate some of the branching logic around permission
> checks.
> 
> Same question for the previous patch, but this is mostly just me being
> a bit confused about where we should draw the line.

This would however escalate rather quickly, therefore we generally tend 
to keep the number of privs and roles limited. But I agree that here it 
might make sense to re-consider splitting up `Datastore.Modify` into 
more fine grained sets and update rules and documentation accordingly.

Will see if this can be done in a backwards compatible manner.




  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-14 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-13 17:09 [PATCH proxmox{,-backup} 00/28] append-only sync jobs and snapshot retention timespan Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox 01/28] pbs-api-types: add append only permission and role Christian Ebner
2026-09-09 12:24   ` Robert Obkircher
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox 02/28] pbs-api-types: add remote datastore append privs " Christian Ebner
2026-09-09 12:24   ` Robert Obkircher
2026-09-14 14:24     ` Christian Ebner [this message]
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox 03/28] pbs-api-types: extend snapshot list items by retention timestamp Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox 04/28] pbs-api-types: extend sync job config by retention-timespan parameter Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox 05/28] pbs-api-types: add maximum retention timespan property to datastore Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 06/28] api: config: extend sync job config by new retention-timespan Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 07/28] api: admin: improve code style for status endpoint Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 08/28] client: avoid error in status if user lacks permissions Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 09/28] server: allow iterating contents for Datastore.Append permissions Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 10/28] api: backup: fix possible information leak in multi-tenant datastores Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 11/28] api: backup: allow backup for user/token with append permission Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 12/28] api: allow namespace creation on append permissions Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 13/28] api: sync: allow pull to target for user/token with append permission Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 14/28] sync: pull: allow pulling " Christian Ebner
2026-09-09 12:32   ` Robert Obkircher
2026-09-14 14:36     ` Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 15/28] sync: push: allow push and ns creation on Remote.DatastoreAppend Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 16/28] datastore: conditionally treat missing manifest as error or bening Christian Ebner
2026-09-09 12:32   ` Robert Obkircher
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 17/28] api: backup: provide retain-until timestamp for extended prune protection Christian Ebner
2026-09-09 12:32   ` Robert Obkircher
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 18/28] tools: include retain-until timestamp in snapshot list items Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 19/28] client: backup writer: allow to send retain-until timestamp on backup Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 20/28] sync: push: allow to set retention timestamp for synced snapshots Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 21/28] sync: pull: " Christian Ebner
2026-09-09 12:32   ` Robert Obkircher
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 22/28] sync: pull: protect retained snapshot from being overwritten Christian Ebner
2026-09-09 12:32   ` Robert Obkircher
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 23/28] api: config: allow to set or delete reteniton timespan for sync jobs Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 24/28] ui: add retention timespan form and use it for sync job edit window Christian Ebner
2026-09-09 12:32   ` Robert Obkircher
2026-08-13 17:09 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 25/28] datastore/config: parse and enforce maximum retention timespan Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:10 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 26/28] ui: allow datastore wide max retention timespan configuration Christian Ebner
2026-08-13 17:10 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 27/28] api: admin: allow to update snapshot retention for root user Christian Ebner
2026-09-09 12:32   ` Robert Obkircher
2026-08-13 17:10 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup 28/28] ui: show retention in datastore contents Christian Ebner

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