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From: "Shannon Sterz" <s.sterz@proxmox.com>
To: "Thomas Lamprecht" <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>,
	<pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH docs 3/9] user management: document the API token policy
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2026 16:05:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DMRMGGW5GNBS.TEPTPRVLXTTR@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260923210000.4031318-4-t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>

On Wed Sep 23, 2026 at 10:59 PM CEST, Thomas Lamprecht wrote:
> Describe the new datacenter token-policy option next to the general
> API token section, so admins who need to fulfill compliance
> requirements find the enforcement options in one place. The option
> reference itself is generated from the datacenter.cfg schema.
>
> Signed-off-by: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
> ---
>  pveum.adoc | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/pveum.adoc b/pveum.adoc
> index d089cb6..0849657 100644
> --- a/pveum.adoc
> +++ b/pveum.adoc
> @@ -115,6 +115,40 @@ To use an API token, set the HTTP header 'Authorization' to the displayed value
>  of the form `PVEAPIToken=USER@REALM!TOKENID=UUID` when making API requests, or
>  refer to your API client's documentation.
>
> +[[pveum_token_policy]]
> +Token Policy
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +The optional `token-policy` datacenter option sets cluster-wide rules for
> +creating and updating API tokens, as compliance standards like PCI DSS,
> +SOC 2, or ISO 27001 often require, most notably a limited credential
> +lifetime. The policy can require an expiration date for new tokens, limit
> +how far in the future the expiration date can be set, forbid changing the
> +expiration date of existing tokens, and require privilege separation.
> +
> +Changing the policy requires `Sys.Modify` on `/`, like any other datacenter
> +option. Configure it in the web interface under *Datacenter -> Options ->
> +API Token Policy*, or on the command line:
> +
> +[source,bash]
> +----
> +pvesh set /cluster/options --token-policy max-lifetime=7776000
> +----
> +
> +`max-lifetime` is set in seconds (7776000 above is 90 days), while the web
> +interface takes days. It counts from when the expiration date is set, that
> +is on token creation or when an update changes it, and implies
> +`require-expiry`, as a token without an expiration date would exceed any
> +maximum lifetime.
> +
> +The policy only applies when a token is created or updated, and only to
> +values that actually change. Existing tokens stay valid even if they do not
> +conform to a policy configured later, and unrelated updates of such tokens
> +keep working. Extending the expiration date within the limit stays possible
> +too, unless `disallow-expiry-changes` is set, which forbids any change of
> +the expiration date after creation; such tokens can still be deleted and
> +recreated.
> +

imo a warning here that the policy will not be enforced by nodes that
aren't updated in a cluster would be nice here. while this this is maybe
obvious, this is a compliance feature. so being transparent about such
limitations could safe costly a back-and-forth with auditors.

>  [[pveum_resource_pools]]
>  Resource Pools
>  --------------





  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-10 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-23 20:59 [PATCH cluster/access-control/manager/docs/proxmox 0/9] fix #7805: add a datacenter-wide API token policy Thomas Lamprecht
2026-09-23 20:59 ` [PATCH cluster 1/9] datacenter config: add token-policy option Thomas Lamprecht
2026-11-10 15:05   ` Shannon Sterz
2026-11-10 16:00     ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-09-23 20:59 ` [PATCH access-control 2/9] fix #7805: api: token: enforce datacenter token policy Thomas Lamprecht
2026-09-23 20:59 ` [PATCH docs 3/9] user management: document the API " Thomas Lamprecht
2026-11-10 15:05   ` Shannon Sterz [this message]
2026-09-23 20:59 ` [PATCH manager 4/9] ui: token edit: only submit the expiration date when changed Thomas Lamprecht
2026-09-23 20:59 ` [PATCH manager 5/9] api: cluster options: return token-policy without Sys.Audit Thomas Lamprecht
2026-09-23 20:59 ` [PATCH manager 6/9] ui: dc options: allow editing the API token policy Thomas Lamprecht
2026-11-10 15:05   ` Shannon Sterz
2026-09-23 20:59 ` [PATCH manager 7/9] ui: token edit: adapt to the datacenter " Thomas Lamprecht
2026-09-23 20:59 ` [PATCH proxmox 8/9] access-control: add API token policy type with expiry checks Thomas Lamprecht
2026-11-10 15:05   ` Shannon Sterz
2026-09-23 20:59 ` [PATCH proxmox 9/9] access-control: enforce token policy on token create and update Thomas Lamprecht
2026-11-10 15:04   ` Shannon Sterz
2026-11-10 15:05 ` [PATCH cluster/access-control/manager/docs/proxmox 0/9] fix #7805: add a datacenter-wide API token policy Shannon Sterz
2026-11-10 15:28   ` Thomas Lamprecht

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