From: "Daniel Kral" <d.kral@proxmox.com>
To: "Fiona Ebner" <f.ebner@proxmox.com>, <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH ha-manager v3 10/21] api: resources: migration: support additional migration options
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2026 09:59:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DM4EHVXYC0RD.2VGF9LX0AZ58C@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cf7118f6-994a-4821-9480-5064e266f9a5@proxmox.com>
On Tue Oct 13, 2026 at 4:34 PM CEST, Fiona Ebner wrote:
> Am 12.10.26 um 11:59 AM schrieb Daniel Kral:
>> On Fri Sep 18, 2026 at 6:08 PM CEST, Fiona Ebner wrote:
>>> + my $version_info = PVE::Cluster::get_node_kv('version-info');
>>> + for my $node (sort keys $version_info->%*) {
>>> + my $node_info = eval { JSON::decode_json($version_info->{$node}); };
>>> + if (my $err = $@) { # warn, but continue
>>> + syslog('warn', "cannot parse version info for $node as JSON - $err");
>>
>> Shouldn't we fail if it's not possible to determine a node's version?
>
> No, this is deliberate. Updated cluster is the usual situation. An error
> here should not affect the usual situation. I'm choosing to affect the
> unusual situation, where the master happens to be too old and unable to
> report its version properly, which should be rare. The failure is also
> not critical: it will be an ignored CRM command with warnings/errors
> logged until the version can be determined again.
Yeah, since 'version-info' is broadcasted in the same format since
Proxmox VE 7.1 so that shouldn't be a problem.
>
> But I will switch the order below and keep submitting a non-JSON CRM
> command if the new style is not actually required. This gives an escape
> hatch.
This depends if we want to switch to only the JSON CRM command format in
the future, then it would be preferable to always use the new format so
we can switch to it in some future major version, at least for the
migrate command?
>
>>
>> Any way, the syslog should probably have some context why parsing the
>> version info is needed here and should also be shown to stdout/stderr
>> for callers of ha-manager.
>
> Ack.
>
>>
>>> + } elsif (!PVE::Cluster::pvecfg_min_version($node_info->{version}, 9, 2, 21)) {
>>> + return 0;
>>> + }
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> + return 1;
>>> +}
>>
>> IMO a generic version of this helper would be nice to have in
>> PVE::Cluster as well, as there already are users that need that
>> functionality (David's vNet pool series [0] and Lukas' notification
>> matcher series [1]), but no blocker for this.
>>
>> [0] https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/20260724142528.109453-4-d.riley@proxmox.com/
>> [1] https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/20261009125646.284673-39-l.wagner@proxmox.com/
>>
>
> I'm not sure, because not every caller might have the same kind of
> failure consideration I described above. Other callers might want to be
> stricter if the failure scenario (i.e. in case of an old node that can't
> be detected) is worse or more common. There also is the consideration
> with offline nodes, which is another angle to the check. So I'm somewhat
> inclined to keep it local (for now).
Right, good point, haven't thought about this! Then let's keep it as it
is for now.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-14 7:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-18 16:08 [PATCH-SERIES common/cluster/ha-manager/qemu-server/container v3 00/21] migration: strict config check for intra-cluster migration Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH common v3 01/21] tools: move version_cmp() helper from qemu-server Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH common v3 02/21] rest handler: handle: respect schema's 'type-property' when resolving type Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH cluster v3 03/21] cluster: move pvecfg node version helpers from qemu-server Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH ha-manager v3 04/21] next state {stopped,started}: factor out helper to handle motion command Fiona Ebner
2026-10-09 13:32 ` Daniel Kral
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH ha-manager v3 05/21] lrm: resource migration: support extra migration options Fiona Ebner
2026-10-09 13:34 ` Daniel Kral
2026-10-13 13:57 ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH ha-manager v3 06/21] change service state: support hash as a parameter value Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH ha-manager v3 07/21] next state: handle motion command: support migration options Fiona Ebner
2026-10-09 13:35 ` Daniel Kral
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH ha-manager v3 08/21] queue resource motion: " Fiona Ebner
2026-10-13 12:22 ` Daniel Kral
2026-10-14 12:35 ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH ha-manager v3 09/21] crm command: support JSON-style migrate command Fiona Ebner
2026-10-09 13:38 ` Daniel Kral
2026-10-13 14:10 ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH ha-manager v3 10/21] api: resources: migration: support additional migration options Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:21 ` Fiona Ebner
2026-10-12 9:59 ` Daniel Kral
2026-10-13 14:34 ` Fiona Ebner
2026-10-14 7:59 ` Daniel Kral [this message]
2026-10-14 10:52 ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH qemu-server v3 11/21] helpers: move version_cmp() helper to pve-common Fiona Ebner
2026-10-08 14:46 ` Michael Köppl
2026-10-08 14:49 ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH qemu-server v3 12/21] helpers: move pvecfg node version helpers to pve-cluster Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH qemu-server v3 13/21] api: migrate: allow forwarding certain migration properties to HA Fiona Ebner
2026-10-13 12:25 ` Daniel Kral
2026-10-14 13:07 ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH qemu-server v3 14/21] fix #7053: api: migrate: pass 'with-conntrack-state' flag to HA migration Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH qemu-server v3 15/21] qm: mtunnel: reply when a command is unknown Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH qemu-server v3 16/21] qm: mtunnel: add 'conf' command to do strict configuration parsing Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH qemu-server v3 17/21] migration: intra-cluster: check config can be parsed on target node Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH container v3 18/21] api: migrate: allow forwarding certain migration properties to HA Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH container v3 19/21] pct: introduce mtunnel command Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH container v3 20/21] d/control: bump versioned build dependency for libpve-common-perl to 9.0.12 Fiona Ebner
2026-09-18 16:08 ` [PATCH container v3 21/21] migration: intra-cluster: check config can be parsed on target node Fiona Ebner
2026-10-13 12:40 ` [PATCH-SERIES common/cluster/ha-manager/qemu-server/container v3 00/21] migration: strict config check for intra-cluster migration Daniel Kral
2026-10-15 12:56 ` superseded: " Fiona Ebner
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