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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: "Michael Köppl" <m.koeppl@proxmox.com>, pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH many v5 0/7] add option to prevent suggesting previously used VMIDs
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 17:56:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4b17067c-bedf-4a2a-b416-5ca4b0bb1a78@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DLMR851TSIEJ.117RKMIPDHX5@proxmox.com>

Am 23.09.26 um 4:10 PM schrieb Michael Köppl:
> On Tue Sep 22, 2026 at 5:02 PM CEST, Fiona Ebner wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> 2. Recording every second ID can lead to a file larger than the 1 MiB
>> pmxcfs limit and then every operation will fail regardless of whether
>> the feature is turned on or not.
>>
>> 3. Remote migration uses destroy_{lxc_container,vm} directly if the
>> 'delete' parameter is set.
>>
>> For the second point, an example is:
>> [I] root@pve9a1 ~# expr $(seq 100 2 1000000 | wc --bytes) / 1024 / 1024
>> 3
>> This is unlikely to happen with regular operation of course, because we
>> always suggest the lowest free one, but it can't be ruled out. Not
>> entirely sure what to do about it, but it would be good if we can avoid
>> the issue. Maybe start dropping gaps and merging anyways if we get close
>> to the limit? At the very least, we might consider making the failure
>> non-critical if the feature is turned off.
> 
> Pondered a bit on this and my suggested approach would be to have 2
> thresholds at 512KiB and 768KiB, where write_id_list would warn for the
> "soft" threshold and start closing gaps at the "hard" threshold? That
> would give users fair warning to follow the suggested unique guest IDs
> and would potentially resolve the problem over time if ranges are
> merged as a result of it. What do you think?
> 
> I'd make it non-critical if 'unique' is turned off in any case.

Sounds good to me :)




      reply	other threads:[~2026-09-23 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-21 15:54 [PATCH many v5 0/7] add option to prevent suggesting previously used VMIDs Michael Köppl
2026-09-21 15:54 ` [PATCH pve-cluster v5 1/7] cluster files: add used-guest-ids Michael Köppl
2026-09-22 14:22   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-21 15:54 ` [PATCH pve-cluster v5 2/7] datacenter config: add unique-next-id to schema Michael Köppl
2026-09-22 14:22   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-22 14:43     ` Michael Köppl
2026-09-23  7:48       ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-23  8:01         ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-23  8:18           ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-21 15:54 ` [PATCH pve-guest-common v5 3/7] add module to track previously used guest IDs Michael Köppl
2026-09-22 14:22   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-22 15:55     ` Michael Köppl
2026-09-23  7:52       ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-21 15:54 ` [PATCH qemu-server v5 4/7] api: record VM ID as used on creation, cloning, and destruction Michael Köppl
2026-09-22 14:33   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-21 15:54 ` [PATCH pve-container v5 5/7] api: record CT " Michael Köppl
2026-09-21 15:54 ` [PATCH pve-manager v5 6/7] close #4369: api: optionally only suggest unique IDs Michael Köppl
2026-09-22 14:33   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-21 15:54 ` [PATCH pve-manager v5 7/7] close #4369: ui: add datacenter option for unique VM/CT IDs Michael Köppl
2026-09-22 15:02 ` [PATCH many v5 0/7] add option to prevent suggesting previously used VMIDs Fiona Ebner
2026-09-23  8:13   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-09-23 14:10   ` Michael Köppl
2026-09-23 15:56     ` Fiona Ebner [this message]

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