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From: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
Cc: pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 19/30] fix #7251: api: push: encrypt snapshots using configured encryption key
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 11:46:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5686be57-0920-4ee7-9874-075bf3411add@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260419210610.3915597-6-t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>

On 4/19/26 11:06 PM, Thomas Lamprecht wrote:
> Am 14.04.26 um 14:59 schrieb Christian Ebner:
>> diff --git a/src/server/push.rs b/src/server/push.rs
>>
>> +        if all_unencrypted {
>> +            encrypt_using_key = params.crypt_config.clone();
>> +            info!("Encrypt and push unencrypted snapshot '{snapshot}'");
>> +        } else if any_unencrypted {
>> +            warn!("Encountered partially encrypted snapshot '{snapshot}', refuse to re-encrypt and skip");
>> +            return Ok(stats);
>> +        } else {
>> +            info!("Pushing already encrypted snapshot '{snapshot}' without re-encryption");
>> +        }
> 
> The "already fully encrypted" case pushes client-encrypted content
> through unchanged, regardless of whether the configured sync key matches
> the client key. That's the right behavior (re-encrypting client-
> encrypted content is impossible without the client key), but from the
> user side this is surprising: they assigned a sync key and the log only
> says "without re-encryption" - nothing indicates that the snapshot is
> *not* using the configured sync key at all.
> 
> Please document this explicitly in the docs patch (30), and consider

This is already mentioned in the docs patch though:
```
Already encrypted snapshots are not re-encrypted but rather pushed 
unmodified. Snapshots containing only partially encrypted contents are 
skipped for security reasons.
```

Any suggestions on how to improve the documentation to make this clearer?

> making the log message say something like "already encrypted with client
> key, configured sync key is not applied". Also, does a push job with an
> `encrypted-only=true` filter + a configured sync key make sense at all?
> If yes, the interaction is worth mentioning too.

It does not really make sense, no. It might be used to first push 
already encrypted snapshots to a target namespace with client encrypted 
only snapshots, then syncing all the snapshots with re-encryption to 
another namespace. But that is a bit far fetched.

Will explicitly mention this in the docs so that is clear as well. Or 
should I add checks to disallow configuring this in the first place?

> 
>> -    target_manifest.unprotected = source_manifest.unprotected;
>> -    target_manifest.signature = source_manifest.signature;
>> +    target_manifest.unprotected = source_manifest.unprotected.clone();
>> +    target_manifest.signature = source_manifest.signature.clone();
> 
> When encrypt_using_key is Some, the target manifest's per-file csums
> differ from the source (new ciphertexts), so a copied-over `signature`
> won't verify on the target anymore. PBS-to-PBS sync rarely carries
> client signatures in practice, but when it does, this produces a
> snapshot that fails signature verification. Probably safest to drop
> signature in the encrypt path and let the target manifest be unsigned.

That's true, will move this to be set for encrypt_using_key being false 
then, thanks!

> Minor observation on commit hygiene: patch 16 adds `let mut
> encrypt_using_key = None;` which is never assigned in that commit (only
> starting here in patch 19), triggering an unused_mut warning on the
> intermediate commit. Same pattern for `let mut new_manifest = None;` in
> patch 26 vs its assignment in patch 28. Not critical, but it means
> bisect-compiling each commit with -D warnings trips. Easy fix is to
> introduce the `mut` in the same patch that first assigns it, or to use
> `#[allow(unused_mut)]` on the intermediate.

Okay, will only make this mutable only once required then.




  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-20  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-14 12:58 [PATCH proxmox{,-backup} v3 00/30] fix #7251: implement server side encryption support for push sync jobs Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:58 ` [PATCH proxmox v3 01/30] pbs-api-types: define en-/decryption key type and schema Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:58 ` [PATCH proxmox v3 02/30] pbs-api-types: sync job: add optional cryptographic keys to config Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:58 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 03/30] sync: push: use tracing macros instead of log Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:58 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 04/30] datastore: blob: implement async reader for data blobs Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:58 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 05/30] datastore: manifest: add helper for change detection fingerprint Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:58 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 06/30] pbs-key-config: introduce store_with() for KeyConfig Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 07/30] pbs-config: implement encryption key config handling Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 14:32   ` Michael Köppl
2026-04-15  6:48     ` Christian Ebner
2026-04-15  8:03       ` Daniel Kral
2026-04-15  8:21         ` Christian Ebner
2026-04-15  8:06       ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-19 20:41   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-20  7:22     ` Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 08/30] pbs-config: acls: add 'encryption-keys' as valid 'system' subpath Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 09/30] ui: expose 'encryption-keys' as acl subpath for 'system' Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 10/30] sync: add helper to check encryption key acls and load key Christian Ebner
2026-04-19 20:41   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 11/30] api: config: add endpoints for encryption key manipulation Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 12/30] api: config: check sync owner has access to en-/decryption keys Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 13/30] api: config: allow encryption key manipulation for sync job Christian Ebner
2026-04-19 20:41   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-20  8:21     ` Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 14/30] sync: push: rewrite manifest instead of pushing pre-existing one Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 15/30] api: push sync: expose optional encryption key for push sync Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 16/30] sync: push: optionally encrypt data blob on upload Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 17/30] sync: push: optionally encrypt client log on upload if key is given Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 18/30] sync: push: add helper for loading known chunks from previous snapshot Christian Ebner
2026-04-19 20:41   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-20  8:59     ` Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 19/30] fix #7251: api: push: encrypt snapshots using configured encryption key Christian Ebner
2026-04-15 14:49   ` Michael Köppl
2026-04-15 15:25     ` Christian Ebner
2026-04-19 20:41   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-20  9:46     ` Christian Ebner [this message]
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 20/30] ui: define and expose encryption key management menu item and windows Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 21/30] ui: expose assigning encryption key to sync jobs Christian Ebner
2026-04-15 14:49   ` Michael Köppl
2026-04-15 15:20     ` Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 22/30] sync: pull: load encryption key if given in job config Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 23/30] sync: expand source chunk reader trait by crypt config Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 24/30] sync: pull: introduce and use decrypt index writer if " Christian Ebner
2026-04-19 20:41   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 25/30] sync: pull: extend encountered chunk by optional decrypted digest Christian Ebner
2026-04-19 20:41   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 26/30] sync: pull: decrypt blob files on pull if encryption key is configured Christian Ebner
2026-04-19 20:41   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 27/30] sync: pull: decrypt chunks and rewrite index file for matching key Christian Ebner
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 28/30] sync: pull: decrypt snapshots with matching encryption key fingerprint Christian Ebner
2026-04-19 20:41   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 29/30] api: encryption keys: allow to toggle the archived state for keys Christian Ebner
2026-04-19 20:42   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-14 12:59 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v3 30/30] docs: add section describing server side encryption for sync jobs Christian Ebner
2026-04-19 20:42   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-19 20:41 ` [PATCH proxmox{,-backup} v3 00/30] fix #7251: implement server side encryption support for push " Thomas Lamprecht
2026-04-20  6:48   ` Christian Ebner
2026-04-20 16:17 ` Christian Ebner

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