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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Erik Fastermann <e.fastermann@proxmox.com>, pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [RFC qemu-server 0/4] remote migrate: extract preconditions and add check endpoint
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 11:26:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f61fa92a-1785-4e6e-85dc-97214cb90c81@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfa5989a-65c4-4435-9a9e-3b0dbe813b50@proxmox.com>

Am 31.07.26 um 3:42 PM schrieb Erik Fastermann:
>> Am 21.07.26 um 1:58 PM schrieb Erik Fastermann:
>>> - Running the checks over the Tunnel command instead would add a new
>>>    command that older endpoints do not understand. Both here and for the
>>>    API, a capability/feature endpoint could help: source and/or target
>>>    query what each supports for a migration, and older versions fall
>>>    back to the current checks. Is that worth introducing now?
>>
>> The capability negotiation can be done via a new tunnel command, see:
>> https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/b072f9d7-
>> b0f8-41fc-8c37-7ea90798aa1b@proxmox.com/
>>
>> It should be possible to issue the capabilities command to the target
>> and detect if the target side understands it (look at the error message
>> to see if unknown or failed for other reasons) and otherwise it's too
>> old and has no capabilities at all.
>>
> 
> That direction makes sense to me. Concretely:
> 
> - Add a capabilities tunnel command, plus a precondition tunnel command
> in which the source sends the relevant config and the target runs the
> checks it can answer better than the source can.
> 
> - The existing source-side checks stay. They are still the only thing
> that runs against a target without the capability, so removing them
> would mean no checks at all for new -> old migrations.
> 
> - New checks that need target-side knowledge go through the new command;
> new checks that are purely source-config-derived go into the shared
> helper this series adds.
> 
> - The new tunnel commands are issued by the precondition endpoint.

As well as the actual migration later.

> 
> - That leaves the current series structurally as-is, with your feedback
> applied, and the tunnel work follows on top.
> 
> What do you think about this?

Sounds good to me :)




      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-05  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-21 11:58 [RFC qemu-server 0/4] remote migrate: extract preconditions and add check endpoint Erik Fastermann
2026-07-21 11:58 ` [RFC qemu-server 1/4] remote migrate: drop ineffective fingerprint auto-detection Erik Fastermann
2026-07-29  9:56   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-07-29  9:59     ` Fiona Ebner
2026-07-29 10:02       ` Fiona Ebner
2026-07-29 10:07     ` Fabian Grünbichler
2026-07-29 10:17       ` Fiona Ebner
2026-07-21 11:58 ` [RFC qemu-server 2/4] remote migrate: collect preconditions as structured findings Erik Fastermann
2026-07-29  9:56   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-07-31 13:42     ` Erik Fastermann
2026-08-05  9:26       ` Fiona Ebner
2026-07-21 11:58 ` [RFC qemu-server 3/4] qm: remote-migrate: call API endpoint directly Erik Fastermann
2026-07-21 11:58 ` [RFC qemu-server 4/4] remote migrate: add precondition check endpoint Erik Fastermann
2026-07-29  9:56   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-07-31 13:43     ` Erik Fastermann
2026-08-05  9:26       ` Fiona Ebner
2026-07-29  9:56 ` [RFC qemu-server 0/4] remote migrate: extract preconditions and add " Fiona Ebner
2026-07-31 13:42   ` Erik Fastermann
2026-07-31 14:44     ` Daniel Kral
2026-08-05  9:26     ` Fiona Ebner [this message]

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