* [PATCH docs] network: Discourage the use of balance-{alb,tlb}
@ 2026-08-18 8:52 Maximiliano Sandoval
2026-08-18 9:09 ` Gabriel Goller
2026-08-27 7:31 ` Aaron Lauterer
0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Maximiliano Sandoval @ 2026-08-18 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pve-devel
when used upstream of a bridge with VM traffic.
Signed-off-by: Maximiliano Sandoval <m.sandoval@proxmox.com>
---
pve-network.adoc | 4 ++++
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
diff --git a/pve-network.adoc b/pve-network.adoc
index 4209092..092096a 100644
--- a/pve-network.adoc
+++ b/pve-network.adoc
@@ -519,6 +519,10 @@ If your switch supports the LACP (IEEE 802.3ad) protocol, then we recommend
using the corresponding bonding mode (802.3ad). Otherwise you should generally
use the active-backup mode.
+WARNING: The bond modes 'balance-alb' and 'balance-tlb' are not suitable when
+the local addresses are not known to the host. These bond modes should not be
+used behind a Linux bridge where virtual machines are connected to.
+
For the cluster network (Corosync) we recommend configuring it with multiple
networks. Corosync does not need a bond for network redundancy as it can switch
between networks by itself, if one becomes unusable. Some bond modes are known
--
2.47.3
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2026-08-18 8:52 [PATCH docs] network: Discourage the use of balance-{alb,tlb} Maximiliano Sandoval
@ 2026-08-18 9:09 ` Gabriel Goller
2026-08-27 7:31 ` Aaron Lauterer
1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Gabriel Goller @ 2026-08-18 9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Maximiliano Sandoval; +Cc: pve-devel
LGTM, Consider:
Reviewed-by: Gabriel Goller <g.goller@proxmox.com>
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2026-08-18 8:52 [PATCH docs] network: Discourage the use of balance-{alb,tlb} Maximiliano Sandoval
2026-08-18 9:09 ` Gabriel Goller
@ 2026-08-27 7:31 ` Aaron Lauterer
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From: Aaron Lauterer @ 2026-08-27 7:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Maximiliano Sandoval, pve-devel
On 2026-08-18 10:52, Maximiliano Sandoval wrote:
> when used upstream of a bridge with VM traffic.
>
> Signed-off-by: Maximiliano Sandoval <m.sandoval@proxmox.com>
> ---
> pve-network.adoc | 4 ++++
> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/pve-network.adoc b/pve-network.adoc
> index 4209092..092096a 100644
> --- a/pve-network.adoc
> +++ b/pve-network.adoc
> @@ -519,6 +519,10 @@ If your switch supports the LACP (IEEE 802.3ad) protocol, then we recommend
> using the corresponding bonding mode (802.3ad). Otherwise you should generally
> use the active-backup mode.
>
> +WARNING: The bond modes 'balance-alb' and 'balance-tlb' are not suitable when
> +the local addresses are not known to the host. These bond modes should not be
> +used behind a Linux bridge where virtual machines are connected to.
not sure how I should interpret the "behind" here. Maybe we can phrase
that differently?
nic1 & nic2 --> bond0 --> bridge0 --> guests
I assume it is this setup?
Though reading the text, my brain is inclined to think the bond is
between the bridge and guests...
Maybe a rephrasing to:
These bond modes should not be used when a Linux bridge with guests is
used in combination with the bond.
> +
> For the cluster network (Corosync) we recommend configuring it with multiple
> networks. Corosync does not need a bond for network redundancy as it can switch
> between networks by itself, if one becomes unusable. Some bond modes are known
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