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From: "Michael Köppl" <m.koeppl@proxmox.com>
To: "Friedrich Weber" <f.weber@proxmox.com>,
	"Michael Köppl" <m.koeppl@proxmox.com>,
	pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH cluster 1/5] add functions to determine warning level for high token timeouts
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 15:50:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DHY14BZ2ER2S.1A8M0L6ITKIJX@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28480320-ef59-462d-aecc-6a713ee3028b@proxmox.com>

On Mon Apr 20, 2026 at 11:39 AM CEST, Friedrich Weber wrote:
> On 20/04/2026 10:26, Michael Köppl wrote:
>> On Fri Apr 17, 2026 at 10:33 AM CEST, Friedrich Weber wrote:
>> 
>> [snip]
>> 
>>>>
>>>> +sub calculate_total_timeout {
>>>
>>> I think "total timeout" is a little too vague, especially because it's
>>> also user-facing. I don't think totem/corosync have a term for "sum of
>>> token and consensus timeout", and "sum of token and consensus timeout"
>>> is a too long. Perhaps something like "recovery timeout" -- though not
>>> perfect because "Recovery" is a specific state in the totem state
>>> machine. Maybe "membership convergence timeout" (though that's a bit
>>> long and obscure)?
>> 
>> Thanks for having a look at this and for your feedback. I agree that the
>> naming is a bit too vague, though I really wasn't sure what else to name
>> it. I think calculate_membership_convergence_timeout could work. As an
>> alternative suggestion, what do you think of
>> calculate_cluster_reformation_timeout? Of course that's also a more
>> "verbose" name, but I think it describes the effects of the timeout
>> quite well.
>
> Hm, "Reformation" reads a bit weird to me. Perhaps "recovery" is not so
> bad after all (a bit less esoteric than convergence or reformation),
> what about "membership recovery timeout"? The "membership" qualifier
> should make it reasonably clear that it's not the same as totem's
> "recovery" state.

I'll go with calculate_membership_recovery_timeout then. I think it
makes it a lot clearer what this timeout actually is. Thanks!




  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-20 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-30 14:43 [PATCH cluster/manager 0/5] add warning messages for high token timeouts in clusters Michael Köppl
2026-03-30 14:43 ` [PATCH cluster 1/5] add functions to determine warning level for high token timeouts Michael Köppl
2026-04-17  8:33   ` Friedrich Weber
2026-04-20  8:28     ` Michael Köppl
2026-04-20  9:39       ` Friedrich Weber
2026-04-20 13:50         ` Michael Köppl [this message]
2026-04-17  8:33   ` Friedrich Weber
2026-03-30 14:43 ` [PATCH cluster 2/5] pvecm: warn users of high token timeouts when using nodes command Michael Köppl
2026-04-17  8:33   ` Friedrich Weber
2026-04-20 13:33     ` Michael Köppl
2026-03-30 14:43 ` [PATCH cluster 3/5] api: add token timeout and warning level to cluster join info Michael Köppl
2026-04-17  8:33   ` Friedrich Weber
2026-03-30 14:43 ` [PATCH manager 4/5] ui: cluster info: move initialization of items to initComponent Michael Köppl
2026-04-17  8:33   ` Friedrich Weber
2026-03-30 14:43 ` [PATCH manager 5/5] ui: cluster info: warn users of high token timeout in join info Michael Köppl
2026-04-17  8:34   ` Friedrich Weber
2026-04-17  8:33 ` [PATCH cluster/manager 0/5] add warning messages for high token timeouts in clusters Friedrich Weber
2026-04-20 16:44 ` superseded: " Michael Köppl

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