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* [PVE-User] shutdown and stay shut
@ 2025-09-28  0:04 Randy Bush
  2025-09-28  7:13 ` Victor Rodriguez
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From: Randy Bush @ 2025-09-28  0:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ProxMox Users

debian bookworm
proxmox 8.4.14

we are going perform some complex surgery on a cluster.  so we want to
shut proxmox down and have it stay down across a few power up and down
cycles aided by the usual `shutdown -[hr] now` etc.

what is the best way to tell proxmox not to come back up and start vms
on reboot / power-up?  there seems to be no

    sudo systemctl disable proxmox.service

ddg gives me a million hits for disabling the no subscription notice :)

thanks for clues

randy

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* Re: [PVE-User] shutdown and stay shut
  2025-09-28  0:04 [PVE-User] shutdown and stay shut Randy Bush
@ 2025-09-28  7:13 ` Victor Rodriguez
  2025-09-29  5:31 ` René Bayer via pve-user
  2025-09-30  9:48 ` Alwin Antreich via pve-user
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Victor Rodriguez @ 2025-09-28  7:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pve-user

If on cluster + HA, either set all resources to ignore or move/rename 
/etc/pve/ha/resources.cfg (and move/rename back once maintenance is 
done), then:

- |systemctl disable pve-guests.service|.
- Reboot and no VM will be started. Do the update or whatever 
maintenance is needed.
- Reboot if needed (i.e. kernel update).
- |systemctl enable pve-guests.service && /usr/bin/pvesh --nooutput 
create /nodes/localhost/startall|.

Disclaimer: I've used this procedure a few times now on single node 
setups. Haven't tested this procedure much con clusters as usually can 
live migrate and the node is empty for maintenance, so no need to 
disable VM start.


On 9/28/25 02:04, Randy Bush wrote:
> debian bookworm
> proxmox 8.4.14
>
> we are going perform some complex surgery on a cluster.  so we want to
> shut proxmox down and have it stay down across a few power up and down
> cycles aided by the usual `shutdown -[hr] now` etc.
>
> what is the best way to tell proxmox not to come back up and start vms
> on reboot / power-up?  there seems to be no
>
>      sudo systemctl disable proxmox.service
>
> ddg gives me a million hits for disabling the no subscription notice :)
>
> thanks for clues
>
> randy
>
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* Re: [PVE-User] shutdown and stay shut
  2025-09-28  0:04 [PVE-User] shutdown and stay shut Randy Bush
  2025-09-28  7:13 ` Victor Rodriguez
@ 2025-09-29  5:31 ` René Bayer via pve-user
  2025-09-30  9:48 ` Alwin Antreich via pve-user
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From: René Bayer via pve-user @ 2025-09-29  5:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Proxmox VE user list; +Cc: René Bayer

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From: "René Bayer" <rene.bayer@siedl.net>
To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] shutdown and stay shut
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2025 07:31:19 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <1716074032.6665767.1759123879689.JavaMail.zimbra@siedl.net>

Haven't tried it yet, but my first intention would be setting all the nodes in the cluster into maintenance mode.
Maybe this helps :)

# ha-manager crm-command node-maintenance enable [hostname]
# ha-manager crm-command node-maintenance disable [hostname]



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Betreff: [PVE-User] shutdown and stay shut

debian bookworm
proxmox 8.4.14

we are going perform some complex surgery on a cluster.  so we want to
shut proxmox down and have it stay down across a few power up and down
cycles aided by the usual `shutdown -[hr] now` etc.

what is the best way to tell proxmox not to come back up and start vms
on reboot / power-up?  there seems to be no

    sudo systemctl disable proxmox.service

ddg gives me a million hits for disabling the no subscription notice :)

thanks for clues

randy

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* Re: [PVE-User] shutdown and stay shut
  2025-09-28  0:04 [PVE-User] shutdown and stay shut Randy Bush
  2025-09-28  7:13 ` Victor Rodriguez
  2025-09-29  5:31 ` René Bayer via pve-user
@ 2025-09-30  9:48 ` Alwin Antreich via pve-user
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Alwin Antreich via pve-user @ 2025-09-30  9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Proxmox VE user list; +Cc: Alwin Antreich

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From: "Alwin Antreich" <alwin@antreich.com>
To: "Proxmox VE user list" <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] shutdown and stay shut
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2025 09:48:30 +0000
Message-ID: <d2135b988f059858a41afdf4c151067e642637f1@antreich.com>

Hi Randy,  
  

September 28, 2025 at 2:04 AM, "Randy Bush" <[randy@psg.com](mailto:randy@psg.com?to=%22Randy%20Bush%22%20%3Crandy%40psg.com%3E)\> wrote:

> debian bookworm  
> proxmox 8.4.14  
>   
> we are going perform some complex surgery on a cluster. so we want to  
> shut proxmox down and have it stay down across a few power up and down  
> cycles aided by the usual \`shutdown -\[hr\] now\` etc.  
>   
> what is the best way to tell proxmox not to come back up and start vms  
> on reboot / power-up? there seems to be no  
Not sure, why do the server need to boot at all?

My "captain obvious" choices :P
 - unplug power
 - remove OS disks
 - use a rescue ISO to boot from
  
Cheers,
Alwin



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