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From: Eneko Lacunza via pve-user <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
Cc: Eneko Lacunza <elacunza@binovo.es>
Subject: [PVE-User] Advice request for new cluster
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:22:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.257.1743067357.359.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> (raw)

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From: Eneko Lacunza <elacunza@binovo.es>
To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Advice request for new cluster
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:22:27 +0100
Message-ID: <1adce0d3-b1cb-4cf3-85da-4f37c6a31ca1@binovo.es>

Hi all,

We're in the process of designing and procuring a new PVE HCI cluster.

We will service about 6,000 tenants, each running two docker containers, 
one with PostgreSQL and the other a python web application.

Containers will be hosted in VMs, 250 tenants per VM. VMs will have 
512GB RAM and 16-32 vcores. 4 VMs per server.

Based on current data, we expect to be memory constrained; CPU, 
networking and disk (Ceph) not being our main concern.

We're looking to optimize our cost per GB of RAM, so our current plan is 
to deploy 6 servers with 2,3TB RAM and 2 EPYC CPU sockets, each with 48 
cores, 4x25 Gbps network and 3x7,68T disks for Ceph. The more expensive 
alternative would be to deploy 12x 1,15TB RAM 1 EPYC servers (+30% 
adquisition and about +40% running costs)

I have been reading reports about NUMA performance issues on Proxmox 
mailing lists and elsewhere. Memory bandwith issues for example.

Based on what I understood, and seeing that we'll have more than 2,000 
not very demanding containers in each server, I think those NUMA issues 
shouldn't be a problem in our use case.

I'll be very grateful on any suggestion or comment about this NUMA issue 
and our cluster design.

Cheers

Eneko Lacunza
Zuzendari teknikoa | Director técnico
Binovo IT Human Project

Tel. +34 943 569 206 | https://www.binovo.es
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