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From: dorsy via pve-user <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
Cc: dorsy <dorsyka@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] A less aggressive OOM?
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 18:15:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.1281.1752164204.395.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98ace9cf-a47f-40cd-8796-6bec3558ebb0@web.de>

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From: dorsy <dorsyka@yahoo.com>
To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] A less aggressive OOM?
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 18:15:55 +0200
Message-ID: <2a7aed75-5870-4e23-994a-6f78bbe9dd85@yahoo.com>

You did overcommit memory by not setting appropriate ZFS limits.

So OOMkiller saved Your machine from hangup in a memory constraint 
situation. That's easy like that.

Read The Fine Manual!

On 7/10/2025 6:11 PM, Roland wrote:
> imho, killing processes because of arc using too much ram which can't 
> be reclaimed fast enough is a failure in overall memory coordination.
>
> we can set zfs limits as a workaround, yes - but zfs and oomkiller is 
> to blame !!!
>
> 1. zfs should free up memory faster, as memory is also freed from 
> buffers/caches
>
> 2. oomkiller should put pressure on arc or try reclaim pages from that 
> first, instead of killing kvm processes.  maybe oomkiller could be 
> made arc-aware!?
>
> roland
>
>
> >On 7/10/2025 11:08 AM, Roland via pve-user wrote:
> >if OOM kicks in because half of the ram is being used for 
> caches/buffers, i would blame OOMkiller or ZFS for tha. The problem 
> should be resolved at zfs or memory management level.
>
> >Absolutely no!
> >You are responsible for giving ZFS the limits. As even described in 
> the proxmox documentation here:
> >https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/ZFS_on_Linux#sysadmin_zfs_limit_memory_usage 
>
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> Am 10.07.25 um 16:49 schrieb dorsy via pve-user:
>> On 7/10/2025 11:08 AM, Roland via pve-user wrote:
>> if OOM kicks in because half of the ram is being used for 
>> caches/buffers, i would blame OOMkiller or ZFS for tha. The problem 
>> should be resolved at zfs or memory management level.
>>
>> Absolutely no!
>> You are responsible for giving ZFS the limits. As even described in 
>> the proxmox documentation here:
>> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/ZFS_on_Linux#sysadmin_zfs_limit_memory_usage 
>>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-10 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-07  9:26 Marco Gaiarin
2025-07-07 21:39 ` Victor Rodriguez
2025-07-08 16:31   ` Marco Gaiarin
2025-07-10  8:56     ` Victor Rodriguez
2025-07-10  9:08       ` Roland via pve-user
2025-07-10 14:49         ` dorsy via pve-user
2025-07-10 16:11           ` Roland via pve-user
     [not found]           ` <98ace9cf-a47f-40cd-8796-6bec3558ebb0@web.de>
2025-07-10 16:15             ` dorsy via pve-user [this message]
2025-07-13 14:28           ` Marco Gaiarin
2025-07-08 12:05 ` Roland via pve-user

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