[PVE-User] vlan setup at time of host installation

[PVE-User] vlan setup at time of host installation

[Timo Veith]

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Dear pve users,

I am totally new to pve. Is there a recommended way to setup vlans during the installation of a host? I have found some notes about vlans in the documentation but it only describes some sections in /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn’t say when this should be done. In fact I did one of the proposed methods and I can connect to the management ip address in that vlan but I wonder if it was right how I did it. I installed from the iso, configured some ip because I didn’t find any option for using vlans in the installer and then searched through the documentation. I changed the /etc/network/interfaces and did a reboot. Where after I was able to connect to the ip address that I configured. However in the console I can still read „use blabla ip and port 8006“ which is the ip I used during the installation. 

Cheers
Timo

Re: [PVE-User] vlan setup at time of host installation

[Timo Veith]

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> Am 15.07.2023 um 22:43 schrieb Arjen via pve-user <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>:
> 
> 
> Von: Arjen <leesteken+proxmox@pm.me <mailto:leesteken+proxmox@pm.me>>
> Betreff: Aw: [PVE-User] vlan setup at time of host installation
> Datum: 15. Juli 2023 um 22:43:37 MESZ
> An: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com <mailto:pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>>
> 
> 
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Saturday, July 15th, 2023 at 22:25, Timo Veith <timo.veith@uni-tuebingen.de <mailto:timo.veith@uni-tuebingen.de>> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Dear pve users,
>> 
>> I am totally new to pve. Is there a recommended way to setup vlans during the installation of a host? I have found some notes about vlans in the documentation but it only describes some sections in /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn’t say when this should be done. In fact I did one of the proposed methods and I can connect to the management ip address in that vlan but I wonder if it was right how I did it. I installed from the iso, configured some ip because I didn’t find any option for using vlans in the installer and then searched through the documentation. I changed the /etc/network/interfaces and did a reboot. Where after I was able to connect to the ip address that I configured. However in the console I can still read „use blabla ip and port 8006“ which is the ip I used during the installation.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Timo
> 
> Don't panic; you did nothing wrong. The installer is rather simple and only does the basic installation. 
> It's common to setup more complex things (like vlan) after installation. If the Proxmox GUI does not support it, or is not (yet) reachable, you do those things on the Proxmox console. 
> The console welcome message probably takes the IP address from /etc/hosts, which you also need to manually adjust to match the new IP.
> 
> Best regards
> 


Hello Arjen,

thank you for your reply. 

I understand. Do you have some more common examples of cases where you can only configure that after the GUI installation and with the console?

Greetings
Timo

Re: [PVE-User] vlan setup at time of host installation

[Rainer Krienke]

Hi Timo,

I never searched if the installer offers a way to configure vlans. I 
just used the installer to get a basic system installed so I can access 
the system by some ip:8006.

Then I manually configured /etc/network/interfaces adding bonds and 
vlans as needed (see man5 interfaces, "ifupdown2"  pkg):

Add a interface bond:
iface bond0 inet manual
         bond-slaves enp33s0f0 enp33s0f2 #  network interfaces
         bond-miimon 100
         bond-mode 802.3ad
         bond-xmit-hash-policy layer3+4
         bond-miiomon 100
         bond-lacp-rate 1
         bond-min-links 1

and then vlans with or without ips based on the bond usable to reach the 
host itself as well as usable for vms

auto vmbr3   # vlan3
iface vmbr3 inet manual
         bridge-ports bond0.3
         bridge-stp off
         bridge-fd 0

iface vmbr2 inet static  vlan2
         address a.b.c.d/n
         gateway a.b.c.e
         bridge-ports bond0.2
         bridge-stp off
         bridge-fd 0

Have a nice day
Rainer

Am 15.07.23 um 22:25 schrieb Timo Veith:
> Dear pve users,
> 
> I am totally new to pve. Is there a recommended way to setup vlans during the installation of a host? I have found some notes about vlans in the documentation but it only describes some sections in /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn’t say when this should be done. In fact I did one of the proposed methods and I can connect to the management ip address in that vlan but I wonder if it was right how I did it. I installed from the iso, configured some ip because I didn’t find any option for using vlans in the installer and then searched through the documentation. I changed the /etc/network/interfaces and did a reboot. Where after I was able to connect to the ip address that I configured. However in the console I can still read „use blabla ip and port 8006“ which is the ip I used during the installation.
> 
> Cheers
> Timo
> 
> 
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Re: [PVE-User] vlan setup at time of host installation

[Michael Cooper]

Hello Guys,

I don't know if this is relevant but I thought I would chime in.

This is one is for Network Bonding in Proxmox -> Nic Bonding in Proxmox 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auMugO3zsKw>

This one is Bond Nics w/VLan Support in Proxmox 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIip66Rzt4I>


I apologize if this is not what you were wanting.

Thanks,

Michael

On 7/16/23 12:44 AM, Timo Veith wrote:
>
>> Am 15.07.2023 um 22:43 schrieb Arjen via pve-user<pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>:
>>
>>
>> Von: Arjen <leesteken+proxmox@pm.me  <mailto:leesteken+proxmox@pm.me>>
>> Betreff: Aw: [PVE-User] vlan setup at time of host installation
>> Datum: 15. Juli 2023 um 22:43:37 MESZ
>> An: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com  <mailto:pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>>
>>
>>
>> ------- Original Message -------
>> On Saturday, July 15th, 2023 at 22:25, Timo Veith <timo.veith@uni-tuebingen.de  <mailto:timo.veith@uni-tuebingen.de>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear pve users,
>>>
>>> I am totally new to pve. Is there a recommended way to setup vlans during the installation of a host? I have found some notes about vlans in the documentation but it only describes some sections in /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn’t say when this should be done. In fact I did one of the proposed methods and I can connect to the management ip address in that vlan but I wonder if it was right how I did it. I installed from the iso, configured some ip because I didn’t find any option for using vlans in the installer and then searched through the documentation. I changed the /etc/network/interfaces and did a reboot. Where after I was able to connect to the ip address that I configured. However in the console I can still read „use blabla ip and port 8006“ which is the ip I used during the installation.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Timo
>> Don't panic; you did nothing wrong. The installer is rather simple and only does the basic installation.
>> It's common to setup more complex things (like vlan) after installation. If the Proxmox GUI does not support it, or is not (yet) reachable, you do those things on the Proxmox console.
>> The console welcome message probably takes the IP address from /etc/hosts, which you also need to manually adjust to match the new IP.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>
> Hello Arjen,
>
> thank you for your reply.
>
> I understand. Do you have some more common examples of cases where you can only configure that after the GUI installation and with the console?
>
> Greetings
> Timo
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Timo

See =
https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/chapter-sysadmin.html#_default_configurat=
ion_using_a_bridge =
<https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/chapter-sysadmin.html#_default_configura=
tion_using_a_bridge>
3.3.4. Default Configuration using a Bridge =
<https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/chapter-sysadmin.html#_default_configura=
tion_using_a_bridge>
The installation program creates a single bridge named vmbr0, which is =
connected to the first Ethernet card.=20

The Proxmox VE installer does not support vlan tagging during the =
installation.
At time of installation all traffic is untagged.

Once you have access to the management GUI (through the management IP =
address provided during installation) you can complete the network =
configuration and configure VLAN tagging.
=
https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/chapter-sysadmin.html#sysadmin_network_vl=
an =
<https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/chapter-sysadmin.html#sysadmin_network_v=
lan>
Select node > Network > Create > Linux VLAN

Stefan

> On Jul 15, 2023, at 22:25, Timo Veith <timo.veith@uni-tuebingen.de> =
wrote:
>=20
> Dear pve users,
>=20
> I am totally new to pve. Is there a recommended way to setup vlans =
during the installation of a host? I have found some notes about vlans =
in the documentation but it only describes some sections in =
/etc/network/interfaces but it doesn=E2=80=99t say when this should be =
done. In fact I did one of the proposed methods and I can connect to the =
management ip address in that vlan but I wonder if it was right how I =
did it. I installed from the iso, configured some ip because I didn=E2=80=99=
t find any option for using vlans in the installer and then searched =
through the documentation. I changed the /etc/network/interfaces and did =
a reboot. Where after I was able to connect to the ip address that I =
configured. However in the console I can still read =E2=80=9Euse blabla =
ip and port 8006=E2=80=9C which is the ip I used during the =
installation.=20
>=20
> Cheers
> Timo_______________________________________________
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Re: [PVE-User] vlan setup at time of host installation

[Timo Veith]

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Hi everyone, 

great replies! Thanks to anybody who answered! With that in my „pocket“ I will surely get further with my test installation. 

I already learned something new, because I never heard of a „vlan aware bridge“. 

Cheers and have nice day
Timo



> Am 16.07.2023 um 16:59 schrieb Stefan Radman via pve-user <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>:
> 
> 
> Von: Stefan Radman <stefan.radman@me.com>
> Betreff: Aw: [PVE-User] vlan setup at time of host installation
> Datum: 16. Juli 2023 um 16:59:25 MESZ
> An: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
> 
> 
> Hi Timo
> 
> See https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/chapter-sysadmin.html#_default_configuration_using_a_bridge <https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/chapter-sysadmin.html#_default_configuration_using_a_bridge>
> 3.3.4. Default Configuration using a Bridge <https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/chapter-sysadmin.html#_default_configuration_using_a_bridge>
> The installation program creates a single bridge named vmbr0, which is connected to the first Ethernet card. 
> 
> The Proxmox VE installer does not support vlan tagging during the installation.
> At time of installation all traffic is untagged.
> 
> Once you have access to the management GUI (through the management IP address provided during installation) you can complete the network configuration and configure VLAN tagging.
> https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/chapter-sysadmin.html#sysadmin_network_vlan <https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/chapter-sysadmin.html#sysadmin_network_vlan>
> Select node > Network > Create > Linux VLAN
> 
> Stefan
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2023, at 22:25, Timo Veith <timo.veith@uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear pve users,
>> 
>> I am totally new to pve. Is there a recommended way to setup vlans during the installation of a host? I have found some notes about vlans in the documentation but it only describes some sections in /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn’t say when this should be done. In fact I did one of the proposed methods and I can connect to the management ip address in that vlan but I wonder if it was right how I did it. I installed from the iso, configured some ip because I didn’t find any option for using vlans in the installer and then searched through the documentation. I changed the /etc/network/interfaces and did a reboot. Where after I was able to connect to the ip address that I configured. However in the console I can still read „use blabla ip and port 8006“ which is the ip I used during the installation. 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Timo_______________________________________________
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