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* [PVE-User] Max limits questions
@ 2022-11-16  6:30 Anton Shevtsov
  2022-11-18 11:16 ` Thomas Lamprecht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Anton Shevtsov @ 2022-11-16  6:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pve-user

Hi,

Where i can find information about below questions

VM

1. Max vCPU count per VM ?


Node host

1. How many maximum CPU cores are supported per node?

2. Max RAM are supported per node? (i think - unlimited, but..)



p.s. pve 7.0.6


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* Re: [PVE-User] Max limits questions
  2022-11-16  6:30 [PVE-User] Max limits questions Anton Shevtsov
@ 2022-11-18 11:16 ` Thomas Lamprecht
  2022-11-18 11:30   ` Anton Shevtsov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Lamprecht @ 2022-11-18 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Proxmox VE user list, Anton Shevtsov

Hi,

Am 16/11/2022 um 07:30 schrieb Anton Shevtsov:
> Where i can find information about below questions
> 
> VM
> 
> 1. Max vCPU count per VM ?

Proxmox VE places no limit on that, so basically how many the PVE host CPU has.
With more the KVM acceleration cannot work any more, so it gets rather slow and unpracticable.
> 
> Node host
> 
> 1. How many maximum CPU cores are supported per node?

Kernel dependent. For the current supported Proxmox VE 7.2's 5.15 kernel it's
8192 per CPU as you can find out by checking the kernel compile config:

grep NR_CPUS /boot/config-5.15.*-pve

Multi-Socket systems normally stop at 4 sockets, but we know a setup with 8 sockets
that uses Proxmox VE. So I guess 8 * 8192 = 65536

> 
> 2. Max RAM are supported per node? (i think - unlimited, but..)

No not unlimited, Linux currently supports 48- and 57-bit virtual addresses.
So, depending on your CPU/Mainboard/... it's something between 2^48 = 256 TiB
and 2^57 = 128 PiB.

In practice the limit will be currently in the range of 6 TiB for modern (last gen)
of Server CPUs. For example, with DDR5 you can get 512 GiB per DIMM and Epyc Genoa
CPUs support 12 channels, so 12 * 512 GiB = 6 TiB.

cheers,
Thomas




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* Re: [PVE-User] Max limits questions
  2022-11-18 11:16 ` Thomas Lamprecht
@ 2022-11-18 11:30   ` Anton Shevtsov
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Anton Shevtsov @ 2022-11-18 11:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Lamprecht, Proxmox VE user list

Thomas, thanks for answers.

I've got one more question.

We plan to use approximately 80-100 nodes in pve cluster.

Will the cluster work be stable? Or is it unknown?


18.11.2022 16:16, Thomas Lamprecht пишет:
> Hi,
>
> Am 16/11/2022 um 07:30 schrieb Anton Shevtsov:
>> Where i can find information about below questions
>>
>> VM
>>
>> 1. Max vCPU count per VM ?
> Proxmox VE places no limit on that, so basically how many the PVE host CPU has.
> With more the KVM acceleration cannot work any more, so it gets rather slow and unpracticable.
>> Node host
>>
>> 1. How many maximum CPU cores are supported per node?
> Kernel dependent. For the current supported Proxmox VE 7.2's 5.15 kernel it's
> 8192 per CPU as you can find out by checking the kernel compile config:
>
> grep NR_CPUS /boot/config-5.15.*-pve
>
> Multi-Socket systems normally stop at 4 sockets, but we know a setup with 8 sockets
> that uses Proxmox VE. So I guess 8 * 8192 = 65536
>
>> 2. Max RAM are supported per node? (i think - unlimited, but..)
> No not unlimited, Linux currently supports 48- and 57-bit virtual addresses.
> So, depending on your CPU/Mainboard/... it's something between 2^48 = 256 TiB
> and 2^57 = 128 PiB.
>
> In practice the limit will be currently in the range of 6 TiB for modern (last gen)
> of Server CPUs. For example, with DDR5 you can get 512 GiB per DIMM and Epyc Genoa
> CPUs support 12 channels, so 12 * 512 GiB = 6 TiB.
>
> cheers,
> Thomas
>
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Hello to all,
after today's upgrade from 7.2-11 to 7.2.14 LXC's won't boot

run_buffer: 321 Script exited with status 2
lxc_init: 847 Failed to run lxc.hook.pre-start for container "109"
__lxc_start: 2008 Failed to initialize container "109"
TASK ERROR: startup for container '109' failed

lxc-start 109 20221118200745.382 INFO confile - 
../src/lxc/confile.c:set_config_idmaps:2267 - Read uid map: type u nsid 
0 hostid 100000 range 65536
lxc-start 109 20221118200745.382 INFO confile - 
../src/lxc/confile.c:set_config_idmaps:2267 - Read uid map: type g nsid 
0 hostid 100000 range 65536
lxc-start 109 20221118200745.383 INFO lsm - 
../src/lxc/lsm/lsm.c:lsm_init_static:38 - Initialized LSM security 
driver AppArmor
lxc-start 109 20221118200745.383 INFO conf - 
../src/lxc/conf.c:run_script_argv:337 - Executing script 
"/usr/share/lxc/hooks/lxc-pve-prestart-hook" for container "109", config 
section "lxc"
lxc-start 109 20221118200747.295 DEBUG conf - 
../src/lxc/conf.c:run_buffer:310 - Script exec 
/usr/share/lxc/hooks/lxc-pve-prestart-hook 109 lxc pre-start produced 
output: objdump on /lib/systemd/systemd failed: open3: exec of objdump 
-p /var/lib/lxc/109/rootfs/lib/systemd/systemd failed: No such file or 
directory at /usr/share/perl5/PVE/Tools.pm line 455.

lxc-start 109 20221118200747.321 ERROR conf - 
../src/lxc/conf.c:run_buffer:321 - Script exited with status 2
lxc-start 109 20221118200747.321 ERROR start - 
../src/lxc/start.c:lxc_init:847 - Failed to run lxc.hook.pre-start for 
container "109"
lxc-start 109 20221118200747.321 ERROR start - 
../src/lxc/start.c:__lxc_start:2008 - Failed to initialize container "109"
lxc-start 109 20221118200747.321 INFO conf - 
../src/lxc/conf.c:run_script_argv:337 - Executing script 
"/usr/share/lxcfs/lxc.reboot.hook" for container "109", config section "lxc"
lxc-start 109 20221118200747.827 INFO conf - 
../src/lxc/conf.c:run_script_argv:337 - Executing script 
"/usr/share/lxc/hooks/lxc-pve-poststop-hook" for container "109", config 
section "lxc"
lxc-start 109 20221118200749.635 DEBUG conf - 
../src/lxc/conf.c:run_buffer:310 - Script exec 
/usr/share/lxc/hooks/lxc-pve-poststop-hook 109 lxc post-stop produced 
output: umount: /var/lib/lxc/.pve-staged-mounts/mp0: not mounted.

lxc-start 109 20221118200749.636 DEBUG conf - 
../src/lxc/conf.c:run_buffer:310 - Script exec 
/usr/share/lxc/hooks/lxc-pve-poststop-hook 109 lxc post-stop produced 
output: command 'umount -- /var/lib/lxc/.pve-staged-mounts/mp0' failed: 
exit code 32

lxc-start 109 20221118200749.737 ERROR lxc_start - 
../src/lxc/tools/lxc_start.c:main:306 - The container failed to start
lxc-start 109 20221118200749.738 ERROR lxc_start - 
../src/lxc/tools/lxc_start.c:main:311 - Additional information can be 
obtained by setting the --logfile and --logpriority options


Host restart, restore from bck , ... nothing helps

so take caution ....

srdačan pozdrav / best regards

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