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From: Dietmar Maurer <dietmar@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox Backup Server (beta)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:31:26 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39487713.486.1594395087264@webmail.proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <594092ce-e65d-f9b4-a66c-84ac001f9df9@elettra.eu>

> On 10/07/20 15:41, Dietmar Maurer wrote:
> >> Are you planning to support also CEPH (or other distributed file
> >> systems) as destination storage backend?
> > 
> > It is already possible to put the datastore a a mounted cephfs, or
> > anything you can mount on the host.
> 
> Is this "mount" managed by PBS or you have to "manually" mount it 
> outside PBS?

Not sure what kind of management you need for that? Usually people
mount filesystems using /etc/fstab or by creating systemd mount units.

> > But this means that you copy data over the network multiple times,
> > so this is not the best option performance wise...
> 
> True, PBS will act as a gateway to the backing storage cluster, but the 
> data will be only re-routed to the final destination (in this case and 
> OSD) not copied over (putting aside the CEPH replication policy). 

That is probably a very simplistic view of things. It involves copying data
multiple times, so I will affect performance by sure.

Note: We take about huge amounts of data.

> So 
> performance wise you are limited by the bandwidth of the PBS network 
> interfaces (as you will be for a local network storage server) and to 
> the speed of the backing CEPH cluster. Maybe you will loose something on 
> raw performance (but depending on the CEPH cluster you could gain also 
> something) but you will gain the ability of "easily" expandable storage 
> space and no single point of failure.

Sure, that's true. Would be interesting to get some performance stats for 
such setup...




  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-10 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-10 10:56 Martin Maurer
2020-07-10 11:42 ` Roland
2020-07-10 12:09   ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-07-10 12:24     ` Roland
2020-07-10 13:43       ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-10 14:06         ` Roland
2020-07-10 14:15           ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-10 14:46             ` Roland
2020-07-10 17:31               ` Roland
2020-07-10 13:44       ` Dietmar Maurer
     [not found] ` <mailman.77.1594381090.12071.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
2020-07-10 11:45   ` Dietmar Maurer
     [not found]     ` <a92c7f1d-f492-2d43-00b9-15bdb0e805ec@binovo.es>
2020-07-10 13:50       ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-10 12:03 ` Lindsay Mathieson
2020-07-10 12:13   ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-07-10 15:41     ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-07-11 11:03       ` mj
2020-07-11 11:38         ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-11 13:34           ` mj
2020-07-11 13:47             ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-11 14:40             ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-07-14 14:30               ` Alexandre DERUMIER
2020-07-14 15:52                 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-14 21:17                   ` Alexandre DERUMIER
2020-07-15  4:52                     ` Thomas Lamprecht
     [not found]                       ` <176392164.4390.1594849016963.JavaMail.zimbra@numberall.com>
2020-07-16  7:33                         ` Thomas Lamprecht
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.204.1594849027.12071.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
2020-07-16 10:17                         ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2020-07-16 14:36                           ` Mark Schouten
2020-07-16 17:04                             ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-16 13:03                   ` Tom Weber
2020-07-17  7:31                     ` Fabian Grünbichler
2020-07-17 13:23                       ` Tom Weber
2020-07-17 17:43                         ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-18 14:59                           ` Tom Weber
2020-07-18 18:07                             ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-10 12:45 ` Iztok Gregori
2020-07-10 13:41   ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-07-10 15:20     ` Iztok Gregori
2020-07-10 15:31       ` Dietmar Maurer [this message]
2020-07-10 16:29         ` Iztok Gregori
2020-07-10 16:46           ` Dietmar Maurer
     [not found] ` <a1e5f8dd-efd5-f8e2-50c1-683d42b0f61b@truelite.it>
2020-07-10 14:23   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-10 15:59 ` Lindsay Mathieson
     [not found] ` <mailman.86.1594396120.12071.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
2020-07-10 16:32   ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-10-06 13:12 ` Lee Lists
2020-10-08  8:21   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-10-09  9:27     ` Lee Lists
2020-10-09 12:10 Lee Lists

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