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From: "Mark Schouten" <mark@tuxis.nl>
To: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
Cc: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox VE 7.0 (beta) released!
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 23:06:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24F3B1DB-A5F4-406A-B597-AA09ADB2DB23@tuxis.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a76ef0b-5b6e-2c2d-8702-cd889a378143@proxmox.com>

Very cool that this is fixed!

Mark Schouten

> Op 2 jul. 2021 om 22:58 heeft Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> On 29.06.21 10:05, Mark Schouten wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Op 24-06-2021 om 15:16 schreef Martin Maurer:
>>> We are pleased to announce the first beta release of Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.0! The 7.x family is based on the great Debian 11 "Bullseye" and comes with a 5.11 kernel, QEMU 6.0, LXC 4.0, OpenZFS 2.0.4.
>> 
>> I just upgraded a node in our demo cluster and all seemed fine. Except for non-working cluster network. I was unable to ping the node through the cluster interface, pvecm saw no other nodes and ceph was broken.
>> 
>> However, if I ran tcpdump, ping started working, but not the rest.
>> 
>> Interesting situation, which I 'fixed' by disabling vlan-aware-bridge for that interface. After the reboot, everything works (AFAICS).
>> 
>> If Proxmox wants to debug this, feel free to reach out to me, I can grant you access to this node so you can check it out.
>> 
> 
> FYI, there was some more investigation regarding this, mostly spear headed by Wolfgang,
> and we found and fixed[0] an actual, rather old (fixes commit is from 2014!), bridge bug
> in the kernel.
> 
> The first few lines of the fix's commit message[0] explain the basics:
> 
>> [..] bridges with `vlan_filtering 1` and only 1 auto-port don't
>> set IFF_PROMISC for unicast-filtering-capable ports.
> 
> Further, we saw all that weird behavior as
> * while this is independent of any specific network driver, those specific drivers
>  vary wildly in how the do things, and some thus worked (by luck) while others did
>  not.
> 
> * It can really only happen in the vlan-aware case, as else all ports are set promisc
>  no matter what, but depending in which order things are done the result may still
>  differ even with vlan-aware on
> 
> * It did not matter before (i.e., before systemd started to also apply their
>  MACAddressPolicy by default onto virtual devices like bridges) because then the
>  bridge basically always had a MAC from one of it's ports, so the fdb always
>  contained the bridge's MAC implicitly and the bug was concealed.
> 
> So it's quite likely that this rather confusing mix of behaviors would had pop up
> in more places, where bridges are used, in the upcoming  months when that systemd
> change slowly rolled into stable distros, so actually really nice to find and fix
> (*knocks wood*) this during beta!
> 
> Anyhow, a newer kernel build is now also available in the bullseye based pvetest
> repository, if you want to test and confirm the fix:
> 
> pve-kernel-5.11.22-1-pve version 5.11.22-2
> 
> cheers,
> Thomas
> 
> 
> [0]: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.git/commit/?id=a019abd80220

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-02 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-24 13:16 Martin Maurer
2021-06-24 14:08 ` [PVE-User] Error updating Ceph from Nautilus to Octopus Ralf Storm
2021-06-29  8:05 ` [PVE-User] Proxmox VE 7.0 (beta) released! Mark Schouten
2021-06-29  8:23   ` Stoiko Ivanov
2021-06-29  8:34     ` Mark Schouten
2021-06-29  9:46   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2021-06-29 10:06     ` Mark Schouten
2021-06-29 10:31       ` Thomas Lamprecht
2021-06-29 12:04         ` Mark Schouten
2021-06-29 13:31           ` Stoiko Ivanov
2021-06-29 13:51             ` alexandre derumier
2021-06-29 14:14             ` Thomas Lamprecht
2021-07-02 20:57   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2021-07-02 21:06     ` Mark Schouten [this message]
     [not found] ` <mailman.239.1625514988.464.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
2021-07-06  9:55   ` Stoiko Ivanov
2021-06-29 12:27 Wolfgang Bumiller
     [not found] <kcEE.HSoMZfIyQreLVdFDq7JFjQ.AFttFk5y1wE@ckcucs11.intern.ckc-it.at>
2021-07-06 10:22 ` Stoiko Ivanov

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