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From: Marco Gaiarin <gaio@sv.lnf.it>
To: pve-user@pve.proxmox.com
Subject: [PVE-User] Three node Hyperconverged PVE+Ceph and failure domains...
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 11:47:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210310104731.GH3397@sv.lnf.it> (raw)


One of the most interesting configuration of PVE is the three node,
switchless (full mesh) configuration, depicted in some PVE docs, most
notably:

	https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Full_Mesh_Network_for_Ceph_Server
	https://www.proxmox.com/en/downloads/item/proxmox-ve-ceph-benchmark-2020-09

But lurking 'ceph-user' mailing list, some weeks ago, lead to an
interesting discussion about 'failure domains', and many user depicted
the three node cluster as 'insecure'.

The reasoning are about:

a) 'min_size = 2' is a must if you need to keep your data safe; you can
 set 'min_size = 1', but clearly there's no scrub/checksumming, so no
real guarantee against data corruption.

b) but in a three node setup, with 'min_size = 2', if a node goes down,
 the cluster switch in 'readonly' at the very first subsequent failure,
eg the cluster does not handle more then a failure.

c) you can change the failure domain, eg:
	mon osd down out subtree limit = osd
 but in this way you have to guarantee (at worst case) room for the
double of the space on a single node (eg, three node cluster with 2TB of
space each, to guarantee the 'min_size = 2' you cannot use more then 1TB
space on overral cluster; so, a 6TB total disk space for a 1TB usable
space).


I'm wrong? If not, the 3-node hyperconverged cluster is suitable only
for testing?


Thanks.

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             reply	other threads:[~2021-03-10 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-10 10:47 Marco Gaiarin [this message]
2021-03-10 12:28 ` storm
     [not found]   ` <mailman.58.1615379757.456.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
2021-03-10 13:13     ` storm
2021-03-10 14:59   ` Marco Gaiarin

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