* [PVE-User] Proxmox backup server and SMR disks
@ 2022-03-28 15:48 Fabrizio Cuseo
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From: Fabrizio Cuseo @ 2022-03-28 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pve-user
Hello.
There is a very big incompatibility with ZFS and SRM drives (like WD Red nas EFAX); so, i would like to know if someone have used PBS with MD raid (i think that replication will be lost), or if someone have found some workaround to make SMR drives work with pbs and zfs.
Regards, Fabrizio
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* Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox backup server and SMR disks
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@ 2022-03-28 16:40 ` Fabrizio Cuseo
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From: Fabrizio Cuseo @ 2022-03-28 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pve-user
I know, for next drives, but I already have about 120 4Tbyte drives on 10 servers that i have used before PBS and are still usable, I and would like to use them, even if performances are not good.
Regards, Fabrizio
----- Il 28-mar-22, alle 18:23, Michael Rasmussen mir@miras.org ha scritto:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 17:48:26 +0200 (CEST)
> Fabrizio Cuseo <f.cuseo@panservice.it> wrote:
>
>>
>> There is a very big incompatibility with ZFS and SRM drives (like WD
>> Red nas EFAX); so, i would like to know if someone have used PBS with
>> MD raid (i think that replication will be lost), or if someone have
>> found some workaround to make SMR drives work with pbs and zfs.
>>
> Easiest fix is to not buy SMR drives.
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* Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox backup server and SMR disks
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@ 2022-03-31 10:13 ` Fabrizio Cuseo
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From: Fabrizio Cuseo @ 2022-03-31 10:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eneko Lacunza; +Cc: pve-user
Hello Eneko.
Disclaimer: I am replacing all EFAX (smr drives), but some of my customers don't wont to spend other money.
I know that performance is really bad, but the very big problem is that ZFS can't resilver a SMR drive, because it will be considered faultly. I am trying to make a resilver disabling write cache with hdparm, but i think that i will need a month to complete it :)
----- Il 31-mar-22, alle 12:08, Eneko Lacunza elacunza@binovo.es ha scritto:
> Hi Fabrizio,
>
> Issue with SMR drives is writes, specially random writes. I suspect you
> won't like the performance, but it will work nonetheless :)
>
> Cheers
>
> El 28/3/22 a las 17:48, Fabrizio Cuseo escribió:
>> Hello.
>>
>> There is a very big incompatibility with ZFS and SRM drives (like WD Red nas
>> EFAX); so, i would like to know if someone have used PBS with MD raid (i think
>> that replication will be lost), or if someone have found some workaround to
>> make SMR drives work with pbs and zfs.
>>
>>
>> Regards, Fabrizio
>>
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