From: Maximiliano Sandoval <m.sandoval@proxmox.com>
To: Shannon Sterz <s.sterz@proxmox.com>
Cc: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH docs v2 2/2] pveum: document that the pve realm now uses yescrypt
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:57:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s8ojynbtaum.fsf@toolbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261021113808.233146-3-s.sterz@proxmox.com> (Shannon Sterz's message of "Wed, 21 Oct 2026 13:38:08 +0200")
Comments below.
Shannon Sterz <s.sterz@proxmox.com> writes:
> and document that passwords will be updated on login.
>
> Signed-off-by: Shannon Sterz <s.sterz@proxmox.com>
> ---
>
> Notes:
> we may want to implement a scheme similar to pbs and pdm where
> passwords are updated to the latest hashing scheme on log in,
> requiring less user interaction.
>
> pveum.adoc | 17 ++++++++++++-----
> 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/pveum.adoc b/pveum.adoc
> index d089cb6..b970f1e 100644
> --- a/pveum.adoc
> +++ b/pveum.adoc
> @@ -147,11 +147,18 @@ these users to log in via their system username and password.
> {pve} Authentication Server::
>
> This is a Unix-like password store, which stores hashed passwords in
> -`/etc/pve/priv/shadow.cfg`. Passwords are hashed using the SHA-256 hashing
> -algorithm. This is the most convenient realm for small-scale (or even
> -mid-scale) installations, where users do not need access to anything outside of
> -{pve}. In this case, users are fully managed by {pve} and are able to change
> -their own passwords via the GUI.
> +`/etc/pve/priv/shadow.cfg`. Passwords are hashed and salted using the yescrypt
> +algorithm footnote:[yescrypt https://www.openwall.com/yescrypt/]. It provides
> +strong protections against offline password cracking attempts. This realm is the
nit: Perhaps /protections/protection/?
> +most convenient realm for small-scale (or even mid-scale) installations, where
> +users do not need access to anything outside of {pve}. In this case, users are
> +fully managed by {pve} and are able to change their own passwords via the GUI.
> +
> +NOTE: Passwords created with older versions of Proxmox VE used a hashing scheme
nit: This should be '{pve}' rather than 'Proxmox VE '.
> +based on SHA-256 that is now considered insecure. If the file
nit: By whom? Is there any good source to link here?
> +`/etc/pve/priv/shadow.cfg` shows a password hash starting with `$5$` for an
> +account that account still uses such a password. The hash will be updated on the
> +next login of that user or when a new password is set.
>
> LDAP::
--
Maximiliano
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-21 13:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-21 11:38 [PATCH access-control/docs v2 0/2] Update default password hash function to yescrypt Shannon Sterz
2026-10-21 11:38 ` [PATCH access-control v2 1/2] pam/pve: use yescrypt for new password hashes Shannon Sterz
2026-10-21 11:38 ` [PATCH docs v2 2/2] pveum: document that the pve realm now uses yescrypt Shannon Sterz
2026-10-21 13:57 ` Maximiliano Sandoval [this message]
2026-10-21 14:39 ` Shannon Sterz
2026-10-21 14:04 ` [PATCH access-control/docs v2 0/2] Update default password hash function to yescrypt Maximiliano Sandoval
2026-10-21 14:39 ` Shannon Sterz
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