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From: Gabriel Goller <g.goller@proxmox.com>
To: Shannon Sterz <s.sterz@proxmox.com>
Cc: pve-devel <pve-devel-bounces@lists.proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-docs 1/1] fabrics: add initial documentation for sdn fabrics
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 14:24:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mray7o47uv6ndfud5fzsp6rhcvctwdjhwx5tfxul74kmargi7p@3ummcuvb37ab> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D8UBHZP29Y1F.3P978YHUL3Q1E@proxmox.com>

On 31.03.2025 10:44, Shannon Sterz wrote:
>On Fri Mar 28, 2025 at 6:13 PM CET, Gabriel Goller wrote:
>> [snip]

I agree with everthing above.

>> +
>> +Router-ID Selection
>> +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> +
>> +Each node in a fabric needs a unique router ID, which is an IPv4 (or IPv6 in
>> +OpenFabric) address in dotted-decimal notation (e.g., 192.168.1.1).
>
>does this apply to v6 too? i've never seen IPv6 represented in dotted
>decimal notation. imo if you mention IPv6 here, you should specify it's
>representation. maybe:
>
>Each node in a fabric needs a unique router ID, which is an IPv4 address
>in dotted decimal notation (e.g. 192.168.1.1). In OpenFabric this can
>also be an IPv6 address in the typical hexadecimal representation
>separated by colons (e.g., 2001:db8::1428:57ab).

Oops, yeah I forgot this.

>> [snip]
>> +Name:: This is the name of the OpenFabric fabric and can be at most 8 characters long.
>> +
>> +Loopback Prefix:: CIDR (IPv4 or IPv6) network range (e.g., 10.0.0.0/24) used to verify that
>> +all router-IDs in the fabric are contained within this prefix.
>> +
>> +Hello Interval:: Controls how frequently (in seconds) hello packets are sent to
>> +discover and maintain connections with neighboring nodes. Lower values detect
>> +failures faster but increase network traffic. If empty, the default value will
>
>what is the default value? would it make sense to mention that here?

I decided against using default values as I wanted FRR to handle them.
We also don't set default-options in the FRR config, but just delete the
property and let FRR handle it.

Maybe I could write the: "the default FRR value will be used"?

>> +be used. This option is global on the fabric, meaning every interface on every
>> +node in this fabric will inherit this hello-interval property.
>> +
>> +[[pvesdn_openfabric_node]]
>> +On the Node
>> +^^^^^^^^^^^
>> +
>> +Node:: Select the node which will be added to the fabric. Only nodes that
>> +currently are in the cluster will be shown.
>> +
>> +Router-ID:: A unique IPv4 or IPv6 address used to generate the OpenFabric
>> +Network Entity Title (NET). Each node in the same fabric must have a different
>> +Router-ID, while a single node must use the same NET address across all fabrics
>> +(this consistency is automatically managed by {pve}).
>> +
>> +NOTE: When using IPv6 addresses, we use the last 3 segments to generate the
>> +NET. Ensure these segments differ between nodes.
>
>would it make sense to make this a `WARNING` instead of a `NOTE`? sounds
>like this is a bit more important to get right.

yep, I agree.

>> [snip]
>> +[[pvesdn_ospf_fabric]]
>> +On the Fabric
>> +^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> +
>> +Area:: This specifies the OSPF area identifier, which can be either an integer
>> +(i32) or an IP address. Areas are a way to organize and structure OSPF networks
>
>i32 is super intuitive for Rust programmers but "32-bit signed integer"
>would be clearer to everyone else ;)

Will fix this as well.

Thanks for looking over this! The docs are still quite spare, so I hope
I'll get around adding more stuff for the next version.


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Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-28 17:12 [pve-devel] [PATCH cluster/docs/manager/network/proxmox{, -ve-rs, -firewall, -perl-rs} 00/52] Add SDN Fabrics Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox 1/1] serde: add string_as_bool module for boolean string parsing Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 01/17] add proxmox-network-types crate Gabriel Goller
2025-03-31 14:09   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-03-31 14:38     ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-03-31 16:20       ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-03-28 17:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 02/17] network-types: add common hostname and openfabric types Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 03/17] network-types: add openfabric NET type Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 04/17] network-types: move Ipv4Cidr and Ipv6Cidr types Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 05/17] frr: create proxmox-frr crate Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 06/17] frr: add common frr types Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 07/17] frr: add openfabric types Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 08/17] frr: add ospf types Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 09/17] frr: add route-map types Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 10/17] frr: add generic types over openfabric and ospf Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 11/17] frr: add serializer for all FRR types Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 12/17] ve-config: add openfabric section-config Gabriel Goller
2025-03-31 13:48   ` Christoph Heiss
2025-03-31 15:04     ` Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 13/17] ve-config: add ospf section-config Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 14/17] ve-config: add FRR conversion helpers for openfabric and ospf Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 15/17] ve-config: add validation for section-config Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 16/17] ve-config: add section-config to frr types conversion Gabriel Goller
2025-03-31 13:51   ` Christoph Heiss
2025-03-31 14:31     ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-ve-rs 17/17] ve-config: add integrations tests Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-firewall 1/1] firewall: nftables: migrate to proxmox-network-types Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs 1/7] perl-rs: sdn: initial fabric infrastructure Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs 2/7] perl-rs: sdn: add CRUD helpers for OpenFabric fabric management Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs 3/7] perl-rs: sdn: OpenFabric perlmod methods Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs 4/7] perl-rs: sdn: implement OSPF interface file configuration generation Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs 5/7] perl-rs: sdn: add CRUD helpers for OSPF fabric management Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs 6/7] perl-rs: sdn: OSPF perlmod methods Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-perl-rs 7/7] perl-rs: sdn: implement OSPF interface file configuration generation Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-cluster 1/1] cluster: add sdn fabrics config files Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 01/17] sdn: fix value returned by pending_config Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 02/17] debian: add dependency to proxmox-perl-rs Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 03/17] fabrics: add fabrics module Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 04/17] refactor: controller: move frr methods into helper Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 05/17] controllers: implement new api for frr config generation Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 06/17] sdn: add frr config generation helper Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 07/17] test: isis: add test for standalone configuration Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 08/17] sdn: frr: add daemon status to frr helper Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02 10:41   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-02 10:50     ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 09/17] sdn: running: apply fabrics config Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02 10:41   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-02 12:26     ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 10/17] fabrics: generate ifupdown configuration Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 11/17] api: add fabrics subfolder Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02 10:41   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-02 12:20     ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-04-02 12:29       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 12/17] api: fabrics: add common helpers Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02 10:41   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 13/17] fabric: openfabric: add api endpoints Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02 10:37   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 14/17] fabric: ospf: " Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02 10:37   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 15/17] test: fabrics: add test cases for ospf and openfabric + evpn Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 16/17] frr: bump frr config version to 10.2.1 Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-network 17/17] frr: fix reloading frr configuration Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02 10:37   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-02 10:42     ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-manager 1/7] api: use new generalized frr and etc network config helper functions Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-manager 2/7] fabrics: add common interface panel Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02  9:26   ` Friedrich Weber
2025-04-02 10:04     ` Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02 10:10       ` Friedrich Weber
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-manager 3/7] fabrics: add additional interface fields for openfabric and ospf Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-manager 4/7] fabrics: add FabricEdit components Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-manager 5/7] fabrics: add NodeEdit components Gabriel Goller
2025-04-03  9:16   ` Christoph Heiss
2025-04-04 15:45     ` Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-manager 6/7] fabrics: Add main FabricView Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02  9:26   ` Friedrich Weber
2025-04-02  9:50   ` Christoph Heiss
2025-04-02 10:40     ` Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-manager 7/7] utils: avoid line-break in pending changes message Gabriel Goller
2025-03-28 17:13 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-docs 1/1] fabrics: add initial documentation for sdn fabrics Gabriel Goller
2025-03-31  8:44   ` Shannon Sterz
2025-03-31 12:24     ` Gabriel Goller [this message]
2025-04-02  8:43       ` Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02  8:49   ` Christoph Heiss
2025-04-02  9:09     ` Gabriel Goller
2025-04-02  9:16       ` Christoph Heiss
2025-04-03  8:30 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH cluster/docs/manager/network/proxmox{, -ve-rs, -firewall, -perl-rs} 00/52] Add SDN Fabrics Friedrich Weber
2025-04-03 10:21   ` Gabriel Goller
2025-04-03 13:44     ` Friedrich Weber
2025-04-03 14:03       ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-04-03 14:20         ` Friedrich Weber
2025-04-04  7:53           ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-04-04 10:55 ` Hannes Duerr
2025-04-04 12:48   ` Gabriel Goller
2025-04-04 12:53     ` Hannes Duerr
2025-04-04 14:26       ` Gabriel Goller

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