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From: Esi Y via pve-devel <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Cc: Esi Y <esiy0676+proxmox@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH SERIES v2 pve-storage/qemu-server] add external qcow2 snapshot support
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:08:54 +0200	[thread overview]
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From: Esi Y <esiy0676+proxmox@gmail.com>
To: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH SERIES v2 pve-storage/qemu-server] add external qcow2 snapshot support
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:08:54 +0200
Message-ID: <CABtLnHqZVhDKnog6jaUBP4HcSwfanyEzWeLdUXnzJs2esJQQkA@mail.gmail.com>

QEMU was not designed to use internal snapshots "by default":
https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Snapshots

Discussions on this are discouraged, to say the least:
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/blockdev-snapshot-sync-to-snapshot-a-raw-file.38188/#post-712825

On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 7:39 PM Roland privat via pve-devel
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> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 19:34:05 +0200
> Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH SERIES v2 pve-storage/qemu-server] add external qcow2 snapshot support
> i never understood,  why qemu has inline snapshot by default.  from an admin perspective it simply sucks.  for example  you won‘t know when something goes wrong on removal,  how much orphaned data is being left.  furthermore,  the freezes on removal are a pita for us and we often avoid live snapshot removal because of this.  this is one of the reasons why i think ,  proxmox isn‘t on the same enterprise level like vmware.
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> so,  i strongly vote for inclusion of this feature and will happily test it, when available
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> roland
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-20 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240930113153.2896648-1-alexandre.derumier@groupe-cyllene.com>
2024-09-30 11:31 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-storage 1/2] add external snasphot support Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2024-10-23 10:12   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-10-23 12:59     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]     ` <f066c13a25b30e3107a9dec8091b456ce2852293.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2024-10-24  6:42       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-10-24  7:59         ` Giotta Simon RUAGH via pve-devel
2024-10-24  9:48           ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-10-25 20:04             ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]             ` <7974c74b2d3a85086e8eda76e52d7a2c58d1dcb9.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2024-10-28 11:12               ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-10-25  5:52         ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2024-10-24  7:50     ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-30 11:31 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 qemu-server 1/1] implement external snapshot Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2024-10-23 10:14   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-10-23 14:31     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2024-10-23 18:09     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]     ` <aeb9b8ea34826483eabe7fec5e2c12b1e22e132f.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2024-10-24  7:43       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-30 11:31 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-storage 2/2] add lvmqcow2 plugin: (lvm with external qcow2 snapshot) Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2024-10-23 10:13   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-10-23 13:45     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]     ` <e976104d8ed7c365d8a482fa320a0691456e69c1.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2024-10-24  7:42       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-10-24 11:01         ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2024-10-20 13:03 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH SERIES v2 pve-storage/qemu-server] add external qcow2 snapshot support DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2024-10-20 17:34   ` Roland privat via pve-devel
2024-10-20 19:08     ` Esi Y via pve-devel [this message]
     [not found]     ` <CABtLnHqZVhDKnog6jaUBP4HcSwfanyEzWeLdUXnzJs2esJQQkA@mail.gmail.com>
2024-10-22  6:39       ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-10-22  9:51         ` Esi Y via pve-devel
2024-10-22 14:54           ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]           ` <2f07646b51c85ffe01089c2481dbb9680d75cfcb.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2024-10-24  3:37             ` Esi Y via pve-devel
2024-09-30 11:31 Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel

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