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From: "DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
To: "pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	"f.ebner@proxmox.com" <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
Cc: "DERUMIER, Alexandre" <alexandre.derumier@groupe-cyllene.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] qcow2 internal snapshot: 4k write speed reduce to 100~200 iops on ssd ?
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 13:50:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.20.1726753883.332.pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com> (raw)
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From: "DERUMIER, Alexandre" <alexandre.derumier@groupe-cyllene.com>
To: "pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>, "f.ebner@proxmox.com" <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] qcow2 internal snapshot: 4k write speed reduce to 100~200 iops on ssd ?
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 13:50:41 +0000
Message-ID: <a58e0f18bd41976deed2e7177a9d1d26956f06e6.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>

>>Hi,

Hi Fiona, 

sorry I didn't see your response.


>>Is the performance drop also this big with the local storage?

yes. (The result is even worst on nfs, or gfs/ocfs2)


>>A performance drop is of course expected, because AFAIU it needs to
>>do
>>COW for the sectors that the snapshot references, but the drop does
>>sound rather dramatic in your case. The performance should be better
>>again once the COW is done, e.g. when running another test
>>afterwards. I
>>quickly tested in a nested VM with qcow2 disk on a directory storage
and
>>--numjobs=4:²
>>
>>ran test, got ~33k IOPS
>>made a snapshot
>>ran test, got ~20k IOPS (it starts out very slow and then recovers)
>>ran test, got ~33k IOPS again
>>

 I have tested with another server, I around 60k write and going down
to 600~1000k iops max when a snapshot is token. 


I need to increase slowing after some time, maybe 2~3min to get 20k
iops
and 7~10min to get 50kiops again

I'm testing with a 100gb disk

Maybe is is related to metadatas preallocation ? (I'm not sure, but
when you have a new snapshot, the preallocated metadatas are not using
anymore ?)


Anyway, I just send patch for external qcow2 snapshot :)
If somebody have time to review it ^_^


Thanks again for your response !




> is it expected ?
> 
> (I don't have use qcow2 snapshot since 10year, so I really don't 
>  remember performance).
> 

Best Regards,
Fiona

> 
> Using external snapshot file, I'm around 10000iops.
> 
> test inside the vm:
> 
> fio --filename=/dev/sdX --ioengine=libaio --direct 1 --bs=4k  --
> rw=randwrite --numjobs=64
> 
> 



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Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-30 16:01 DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2024-09-11  9:11 ` Fiona Ebner
2024-09-19 13:50   ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel [this message]

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