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From: Wolfgang Bumiller <w.bumiller@proxmox.com>
To: "DERUMIER, Alexandre" <alexandre.derumier@groupe-cyllene.com>
Cc: "pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-storage] lvm: use blkdiscard instead cstream to saferemove drive
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 14:05:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kkrxayfuo4vhyzqswghw3evwll4b37okjulkxlmwq2ztanlyd6@5td4beeats46> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d5353263ee0aa3ee67d8d331f674f8a00044b1e.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>

On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 10:07:59AM +0000, DERUMIER, Alexandre wrote:
> > +        saferemove_discard => {
> > +            description => "Wipe with discard instead zeroing.",
> > +            type => 'boolean',
> 
> >>Not sure we need this (not sure when this is actually useful), but
> >>it's
> >>cheap enough to have around. Should add a `default => 0` for
> >>documentation purposes, though.
> 
> Some storage allow overprovisioning. (create a lun bigger than the real
> storage size), it can be interesting to discard instead zeroing (to
> free space on storage side).
> as snapshots currently use lvm volume with same size than the main
> volume, it can be interesting to have overprovisioning.

But this does not guarantee that the data is actually erased/zeroed, in
which case I'd just disable the thing altogether (but then again I use
`issue_discards` in lvm.conf to cause `lvremove` to discard the whole
thing... ;-)


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-14 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-14  9:24 Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-08-14  9:37 ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2025-08-14 10:07   ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]   ` <9d5353263ee0aa3ee67d8d331f674f8a00044b1e.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2025-08-14 12:05     ` Wolfgang Bumiller [this message]
2025-08-14 13:11       ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-08-15  5:10       ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-08-15  5:47         ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel

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