From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
Daniel Kral <d.kral@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 9/9] manager: make service node usage computation more granular
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 14:42:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f74044cf-ee59-4a80-b3e2-0e02a4385162@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250930142021.366529-13-d.kral@proxmox.com>
Am 30.09.25 um 4:21 PM schrieb Daniel Kral:
> The $online_node_usage is built on every call to manage(...) now, but
> can be reduced to only be built on any scheduler mode change (including
> initialization or error path to be complete).
>
> This allows recompute_online_node_usage(...) to be reduced to
> adding/removing nodes whenever these become online or are not online
> anymore and handle the service usage updates whenever these change.
> Therefore, recompute_online_node_usage(...) must only be called once in
> manage(...) after $ns was properly updated.
>
> Note that this makes the ha-manager not acknowledge any hotplug changes
> to the guest configs anymore as long as the HA resource state doesn't
> change.
I'm not comfortable with that to be honest, because it would not just be
a very badly timed large change that can lead to unexpected decisions,
but an accumulation of smaller changes without any bad timing.
>
> Signed-off-by: Daniel Kral <d.kral@proxmox.com>
> ---
> If we go for this patch, then we would need some mechanism to update the
> static usage for a single or all HA resources registered in
> $online_node_usage at once (or just rebuilt $online_node_usage at that
> point..).
You mean triggered from qemu-server/pve-container upon update? In
combination with that it would be acceptable I think. Question is, do we
want to spend even more time optimizing the static scheduler, or just
apply a v2 without patch 9/9 and rather focus on getting a PSI-based
scheduler going?
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-30 14:19 [pve-devel] [RFC ha-manager/perl-rs/proxmox/qemu-server 00/12] Granular online_node_usage accounting Daniel Kral
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 1/1] config: only fetch necessary default values in get_derived_property helper Daniel Kral
2025-10-15 14:31 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-10-16 9:07 ` Daniel Kral
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox 1/1] resource-scheduling: change score_nodes_to_start_service signature Daniel Kral
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH perl-rs 1/1] pve-rs: resource_scheduling: allow granular usage changes Daniel Kral
2025-10-16 10:32 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-10-16 15:34 ` Daniel Kral
2025-10-17 10:55 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 1/9] implement static service stats cache Daniel Kral
2025-10-16 11:12 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-10-16 15:15 ` Daniel Kral
2025-10-17 10:02 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-10-17 10:08 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-10-17 16:18 ` Daniel Kral
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 2/9] manager: remove redundant recompute_online_node_usage from next_state_recovery Daniel Kral
2025-10-16 11:25 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 3/9] manager: remove redundant add_service_usage_to_node " Daniel Kral
2025-10-16 11:33 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 4/9] manager: remove redundant add_service_usage_to_node from next_state_started Daniel Kral
2025-10-16 11:39 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 5/9] rules: resource affinity: decouple get_resource_affinity helper from Usage class Daniel Kral
2025-10-17 11:14 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-10-17 15:46 ` Daniel Kral
2025-10-20 15:18 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 6/9] manager: make recompute_online_node_usage use get_service_nodes helper Daniel Kral
2025-10-17 11:25 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 7/9] usage: allow granular changes to Usage implementations Daniel Kral
2025-10-17 11:57 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 8/9] manager: make online node usage computation granular Daniel Kral
2025-10-17 12:32 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-10-17 16:07 ` Daniel Kral
2025-09-30 14:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 9/9] manager: make service node usage computation more granular Daniel Kral
2025-10-17 12:42 ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2025-10-17 15:59 ` Daniel Kral
2025-10-20 16:50 ` [pve-devel] superseded: [RFC ha-manager/perl-rs/proxmox/qemu-server 00/12] Granular online_node_usage accounting Daniel Kral
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