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From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
To: Jing Luo <jing@jing.rocks>, pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-manager 2/2] move /run/vzdump.lock to /run/lock/vzdump.lock
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 09:02:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4cca824-31d7-40e9-b6de-31cbb711b604@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250322152004.1646886-2-jing@jing.rocks>

Am 22.03.25 um 16:17 schrieb Jing Luo:
> It's more appropriate under Debian, and vzdump.lock doesn't seem to
> be used by any other package.

This is very dangerous and needs a ton of work to be done right.

As any vzdump job that started before a package update got installed that
includes this (and the others) patches and any job started afterwards will
not be protected at all.

Same for all other patches and the respective things they use the lock
to protect against mutual access.

If this was done we would need to:
- keep the old lock path for one major release around and always acquire
  the lock over the old path first for as long as we can safely say that
  no old job is running. For a lot of things this means until the next
  reboot, as /run is tmpfs backed and thus will be cleared then anyway.

- need some actual good reason instead of "it's more appropriate" which
  can be a fine argument for adding new lock paths but definitively not
  enough to justify moving existing ones.

The same holds for all patches of this series.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-24  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250322152004.1646886-1-jing@jing.rocks>
2025-03-22 15:17 ` Jing Luo via pve-devel
2025-03-22 15:17 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH] rust-proxmox-network-api: change /var/lock to /run/lock Jing Luo via pve-devel
2025-03-22 15:17 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pmg-api] tree-wide: change /var/run to /run and " Jing Luo via pve-devel
2025-03-22 15:17 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH] rust-proxmox-backup: change " Jing Luo via pve-devel
2025-03-22 15:17 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-cluster] tree-wide: change /var/run to /run and " Jing Luo via pve-devel
2025-03-22 15:17 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-common] " Jing Luo via pve-devel
2025-03-22 15:17 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-container] tree-wide: change /var/run to /run Jing Luo via pve-devel
2025-03-22 15:17 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-firewall] tree-wide: change /var/run to /run and /var/lock to /run/lock Jing Luo via pve-devel
2025-03-22 15:17 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-guest-common] tree-wide: change " Jing Luo via pve-devel
2025-03-22 15:17 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-storage] " Jing Luo via pve-devel
2025-03-22 15:17 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server] tree-wide: change /var/run to /run and " Jing Luo via pve-devel
     [not found] ` <20250322152004.1646886-2-jing@jing.rocks>
2025-03-24  8:02   ` Thomas Lamprecht [this message]
2025-03-24 11:41     ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-manager 2/2] move /run/vzdump.lock to /run/lock/vzdump.lock Jing Luo via pve-devel
     [not found]     ` <d8306d3000f15b2dc4dad5f0be32db4f@jing.rocks>
2025-03-24 11:56       ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-03-24 13:04         ` Jing Luo via pve-devel
     [not found]         ` <39e9a7cd767a4de295ab573fa71c7722@jing.rocks>
2025-03-24 13:11           ` Thomas Lamprecht

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