From: Bogdan Ionescu <bogdan@ionescu.at>
To: Bogdan Ionescu <bogdan@ionescu.at>
Cc: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 qemu-server] remote migration: allow insecure TCP data plane
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2026 14:06:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dy7cb50bkAcMMU8Cmn2L86vU01FBOU1ov82WvynaK8hEvrBWZFEME6epL9XaKrJjkEYFp1G6YPNP_85JVLPvyGSC6-OgLKr4vsVm8wLFfA0=@ionescu.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260822124831.15638-1-bogdan@ionescu.at>
Hi Fiona, Fabian,
Just following up on the v3 patch I sent in August. It implements the two-way capability negotiation suggested by Fiona.
Have you had a chance to review it? I'd appreciate any feedback on the approach and any changes needed to move it forward.
Thanks,
Bogdan
On Saturday, August 22nd, 2026 at 3:48 PM, Bogdan Ionescu <bogdan@ionescu.at> wrote:
> Expose migration_type=insecure and migration_network for remote
> migration.
>
> The websocket tunnel remains used for control commands, while QEMU
> migration state and NBD storage migration can use a direct TCP data
> plane. This avoids websocket masking/TLS overhead on trusted private
> migration networks.
>
> Negotiate the opt-in data plane using a dedicated two-way
> 'capabilities' mtunnel command. The source sends the capabilities it
> wants to use, the target returns the subset it supports and permits,
> and both endpoints retain the negotiated set for subsequent handling.
> Keep the version command limited to tunnel protocol compatibility.
>
> Only negotiate capabilities when an opt-in feature is requested, so
> regular remote migrations remain compatible with older targets. Fail
> closed and clean up the target tunnel if capability negotiation is not
> available or the requested capability is not accepted.
>
> Require Sys.Modify on '/' on the source when selecting the insecure
> data plane or an explicit migration network. On the target, only accept
> the insecure-remote capability when the remote credentials also have
> Sys.Modify on '/'.
>
> This mode is only intended for fully trusted private networks, as guest
> RAM and disk migration data may be transferred in clear text.
>
> Changes since v2:
> - replace one-way capabilities in the version reply with a dedicated
> two-way capabilities handler
> - keep the negotiated capability set on both source and target
> - make target acceptance of insecure-remote conditional on Sys.Modify
> - clean up the remote tunnel when capability negotiation fails
> - adapt the current mtunnel start schema for tcp/insecure migration
> - preserve migration_network for the insecure target start path
> - drop the pve-guest-common change; the existing JSON tunnel command
> path already carries the capabilities request and reply
>
> Signed-off-by: Bogdan Ionescu <bogdan@ionescu.at>
> ---
> src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm | 90 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
> src/PVE/CLI/qm.pm | 18 ++++++
> src/PVE/QemuMigrate.pm | 121 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
> 3 files changed, 197 insertions(+), 32 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm b/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
> index 71247ee..9eab183 100644
> --- a/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
> +++ b/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
> @@ -5720,6 +5720,24 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
> minimum => '0',
> default => 'migrate limit from datacenter or storage config',
> },
> + migration_type => {
> + type => 'string',
> + enum => ['secure', 'insecure'],
> + description =>
> + "Migration traffic is encrypted using a websocket tunnel by default. "
> + . "On secure, completely private networks this can be disabled to "
> + . "increase performance. WARNING: with 'insecure', VM RAM and disk "
> + . "migration data is transferred in clear text over the selected "
> + . "migration network. The target credentials need Sys.Modify on '/'.",
> + optional => 1,
> + },
> + migration_network => {
> + type => 'string',
> + format => 'CIDR',
> + description =>
> + "CIDR of the trusted private network used for insecure remote migration.",
> + optional => 1,
> + },
> },
> },
> returns => {
> @@ -5735,9 +5753,16 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
> my $source_vmid = extract_param($param, 'vmid');
> my $target_endpoint = extract_param($param, 'target-endpoint');
> my $target_vmid = extract_param($param, 'target-vmid') // $source_vmid;
> + my $migration_type = extract_param($param, 'migration_type') // 'secure';
> + my $migration_network = extract_param($param, 'migration_network');
>
> my $delete = extract_param($param, 'delete') // 0;
>
> + # insecure remote migration can transfer VM RAM and disk data in clear text
> + if ($migration_type eq 'insecure' || defined($migration_network)) {
> + $rpcenv->check_full($authuser, "/", ['Sys.Modify']);
> + }
> +
> PVE::Cluster::check_cfs_quorum();
>
> # test if VM exists
> @@ -5837,7 +5862,8 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
> client => $api_client,
> vmid => $target_vmid,
> };
> - $param->{migration_type} = 'websocket';
> + $param->{migration_type} = $migration_type eq 'insecure' ? 'insecure' : 'websocket';
> + $param->{migration_network} = $migration_network if defined($migration_network);
> $param->{'with-local-disks'} = 1;
> $param->{delete} = $delete if $delete;
>
> @@ -6739,6 +6765,15 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
> };
>
> my $cmd_desc = {
> + capabilities => {
> + capabilities => {
> + type => 'array',
> + items => {
> + type => 'string',
> + pattern => '[a-z][a-z0-9-]*',
> + },
> + },
> + },
> config => {
> conf => {
> type => 'string',
> @@ -6768,7 +6803,7 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
> properties => {
> statefile => {
> type => 'string',
> - enum => ['unix'],
> + enum => ['unix', 'tcp'],
> },
> forcemachine => get_standard_option('pve-qemu-machine'),
> forcecpu => {
> @@ -6793,7 +6828,7 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
> },
> type => {
> type => 'string',
> - enum => ['websocket'],
> + enum => ['websocket', 'insecure'],
> },
> remote_node => get_standard_option('pve-node'),
> network => {
> @@ -6851,6 +6886,20 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
> age => 0,
> };
> },
> + 'capabilities' => sub {
> + my ($params) = @_;
> +
> + my $supported = {};
> + $supported->{'insecure-remote'} = 1
> + if $rpcenv->check($authuser, '/', ['Sys.Modify'], 1);
> +
> + my $requested = { map { $_ => 1 } $params->{capabilities}->@* };
> + my @accepted = grep { $requested->{$_} } sort keys $supported->%*;
> +
> + $state->{capabilities} = { map { $_ => 1 } @accepted };
> +
> + return { capabilities => \@accepted };
> + },
> 'config' => sub {
> my ($params) = @_;
>
> @@ -6998,6 +7047,17 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
> 'start' => sub {
> my ($params) = @_;
>
> + my $migration_type = $params->{migrate_opts}->{type};
> + my $statefile = $params->{start_params}->{statefile};
> + if ($migration_type eq 'insecure') {
> + die "insecure remote migration capability was not negotiated\n"
> + if !($state->{capabilities} // {})->{'insecure-remote'};
> + die "insecure remote migration requires a TCP statefile\n"
> + if $statefile ne 'tcp';
> + } elsif ($statefile ne 'unix') {
> + die "websocket remote migration requires a UNIX statefile\n";
> + }
> +
> if (my $nbd = $params->{migrate_opts}->{nbd}) {
> for my $ds (keys $nbd->%*) {
> my $drive = $nbd->{$ds};
> @@ -7029,7 +7089,7 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
>
> # not used, but in schema for compat reasons, could stop setting it..
> delete $params->{migrate_opts}->{storagemap};
> - delete $params->{migrate_opts}->{network};
> + delete $params->{migrate_opts}->{network} if $migration_type eq 'websocket';
>
> my $info = PVE::QemuServer::vm_start_nolock(
> $state->{storecfg},
> @@ -7039,19 +7099,25 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
> $params->{migrate_opts},
> );
>
> - if ($info->{migrate}->{proto} ne 'unix') {
> + my $proto = $info->{migrate}->{proto};
> + if (
> + ($migration_type eq 'websocket' && $proto ne 'unix')
> + || ($migration_type eq 'insecure' && $proto ne 'tcp')
> + ) {
> PVE::QemuServer::vm_stop(undef, $state->{vmid}, 1, 1);
> - die "migration over non-UNIX sockets not possible\n";
> + die "unexpected migration protocol '$proto' for '$migration_type' migration\n";
> }
>
> - my $socket = $info->{migrate}->{addr};
> - chown $state->{socket_uid}, -1, $socket;
> - $state->{sockets}->{$socket} = 1;
> -
> - my $unix_sockets = $info->{migrate}->{unix_sockets};
> - foreach my $socket (@$unix_sockets) {
> + if ($proto eq 'unix') {
> + my $socket = $info->{migrate}->{addr};
> chown $state->{socket_uid}, -1, $socket;
> $state->{sockets}->{$socket} = 1;
> +
> + my $unix_sockets = $info->{migrate}->{unix_sockets} // [];
> + foreach my $socket (@$unix_sockets) {
> + chown $state->{socket_uid}, -1, $socket;
> + $state->{sockets}->{$socket} = 1;
> + }
> }
> return $info;
> },
> diff --git a/src/PVE/CLI/qm.pm b/src/PVE/CLI/qm.pm
> index b903c1f..cefdf2d 100644
> --- a/src/PVE/CLI/qm.pm
> +++ b/src/PVE/CLI/qm.pm
> @@ -224,6 +224,24 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
> minimum => '0',
> default => 'migrate limit from datacenter or storage config',
> },
> + migration_type => {
> + type => 'string',
> + enum => ['secure', 'insecure'],
> + description =>
> + "Migration traffic is encrypted using a websocket tunnel by default. "
> + . "On secure, completely private networks this can be disabled to "
> + . "increase performance. WARNING: with 'insecure', VM RAM and disk "
> + . "migration data is transferred in clear text over the selected "
> + . "migration network. The target credentials need Sys.Modify on '/'.",
> + optional => 1,
> + },
> + migration_network => {
> + type => 'string',
> + format => 'CIDR',
> + description =>
> + "CIDR of the trusted private network used for insecure remote migration.",
> + optional => 1,
> + },
> },
> },
> returns => {
> diff --git a/src/PVE/QemuMigrate.pm b/src/PVE/QemuMigrate.pm
> index 8da6f15..c459102 100644
> --- a/src/PVE/QemuMigrate.pm
> +++ b/src/PVE/QemuMigrate.pm
> @@ -46,6 +46,31 @@ use base qw(PVE::AbstractMigrate);
> # compared against remote end's minimum version
> our $WS_TUNNEL_VERSION = 2;
>
> +sub negotiate_remote_tunnel_capabilities {
> + my ($tunnel, $wanted) = @_;
> +
> + return {} if !@$wanted;
> +
> + my $res = eval {
> + PVE::Tunnel::write_tunnel(
> + $tunnel, 10, 'capabilities', { capabilities => $wanted },
> + );
> + };
> + die "failed to negotiate remote migration capabilities - $@" if $@;
> + die "invalid capabilities response from remote tunnel endpoint\n"
> + if ref($res) ne 'HASH' || ref($res->{capabilities}) ne 'ARRAY';
> +
> + my $wanted_caps = { map { $_ => 1 } @$wanted };
> + my $accepted = {};
> + for my $cap ($res->{capabilities}->@*) {
> + die "remote tunnel endpoint returned unrequested capability '$cap'\n"
> + if !$wanted_caps->{$cap};
> + $accepted->{$cap} = 1;
> + }
> +
> + return $accepted;
> +}
> +
> sub fork_tunnel {
> my ($self, $ssh_forward_info) = @_;
>
> @@ -352,6 +377,33 @@ sub prepare {
> die "Remote tunnel endpoint too old, upgrade required\n"
> if $WS_TUNNEL_VERSION > $tunnel->{version};
>
> + my @wanted_capabilities;
> + push @wanted_capabilities, 'insecure-remote'
> + if $self->{opts}->{migration_type} eq 'insecure';
> +
> + my $capabilities = eval {
> + negotiate_remote_tunnel_capabilities($tunnel, \@wanted_capabilities);
> + };
> + my $capability_err = $@;
> +
> + if (
> + $capability_err
> + || ($self->{opts}->{migration_type} eq 'insecure'
> + && !$capabilities->{'insecure-remote'})
> + ) {
> + eval { PVE::Tunnel::finish_tunnel($tunnel, 1); };
> + my $cleanup_err = $@;
> +
> + my $err = "Remote tunnel endpoint did not accept insecure remote migration; "
> + . "upgrade target, grant Sys.Modify on '/' to the target credentials, or omit "
> + . "migration_type=insecure";
> + $err .= " - $capability_err" if $capability_err;
> + $err .= " (tunnel cleanup failed: $cleanup_err)" if $cleanup_err;
> + die "$err\n";
> + }
> +
> + $tunnel->{capabilities} = $capabilities;
> +
> print "websocket tunnel started\n";
> $self->{tunnel} = $tunnel;
> } else {
> @@ -1150,8 +1202,9 @@ sub phase2_start_local_cluster {
> sub phase2_start_remote_cluster {
> my ($self, $vmid, $params) = @_;
>
> - die "insecure migration to remote cluster not implemented\n"
> - if $params->{migrate_opts}->{type} ne 'websocket';
> + die "unsupported remote migration type '$params->{migrate_opts}->{type}'\n"
> + if $params->{migrate_opts}->{type} ne 'websocket'
> + && $params->{migrate_opts}->{type} ne 'insecure';
>
> my $remote_vmid = $self->{opts}->{remote}->{vmid};
>
> @@ -1165,8 +1218,14 @@ sub phase2_start_remote_cluster {
> $self->{stopnbd} = 1;
> $self->{target_drive}->{$drive}->{drivestr} = $res->{drives}->{$drive}->{drivestr};
> my $nbd_uri = $res->{drives}->{$drive}->{nbd_uri};
> - die "unexpected NBD uri for '$drive': $nbd_uri\n"
> - if $nbd_uri !~ s!/run/qemu-server/$remote_vmid\_!/run/qemu-server/$vmid\_!;
> + if ($params->{migrate_opts}->{type} eq 'websocket') {
> + die "unexpected NBD uri for '$drive': $nbd_uri\n"
> + if $nbd_uri !~ s!/run/qemu-server/$remote_vmid\_!/run/qemu-server/$vmid\_!;
> + } elsif ($params->{migrate_opts}->{type} eq 'insecure') {
> + die "unexpected NBD uri for '$drive': $nbd_uri\n"
> + if $nbd_uri
> + !~ m!^nbd:(?:localhost|[\d\.]+|\[[\d\.:a-fA-F]+\]):\d+:exportname=drive-[A-Za-z0-9_.-]+$!;
> + }
>
> $self->{target_drive}->{$drive}->{nbd_uri} = $nbd_uri;
> }
> @@ -1260,28 +1319,50 @@ sub phase2 {
> my $remote_vmid = $remote->{vmid};
> $params->{migrate_opts}->{remote_node} = $self->{node};
> ($tunnel_info, $spice_port) = $self->phase2_start_remote_cluster($vmid, $params);
> - die "only UNIX sockets are supported for remote migration\n"
> - if $tunnel_info->{proto} ne 'unix';
> -
> - # untaint
> - my ($remote_socket) = $tunnel_info->{addr} =~ m|^(/run/qemu-server/\d+\.migrate)$|
> - or die "unexpected socket address '$tunnel_info->{addr}'\n";
> - my $local_socket = $remote_socket;
> - $local_socket =~ s/$remote_vmid/$vmid/g;
> - $tunnel_info->{addr} = $local_socket;
> -
> - $self->log('info', "Setting up tunnel for '$local_socket'");
> - PVE::Tunnel::forward_unix_socket($self->{tunnel}, $local_socket, $remote_socket);
> + if ($params->{migrate_opts}->{type} eq 'websocket') {
> + die "only UNIX sockets are supported for remote migration\n"
> + if $tunnel_info->{proto} ne 'unix';
>
> - foreach my $remote_socket (@{ $tunnel_info->{unix_sockets} }) {
> # untaint
> - ($remote_socket) = $remote_socket =~ m|^(/run/qemu-server/(?:(?!\.\./).)+\.migrate)$|
> - or die "unexpected socket address '$remote_socket'\n";
> + my ($remote_socket) = $tunnel_info->{addr} =~ m|^(/run/qemu-server/\d+\.migrate)$|
> + or die "unexpected socket address '$tunnel_info->{addr}'\n";
> my $local_socket = $remote_socket;
> $local_socket =~ s/$remote_vmid/$vmid/g;
> - next if $self->{tunnel}->{forwarded}->{$local_socket};
> + $tunnel_info->{addr} = $local_socket;
> +
> $self->log('info', "Setting up tunnel for '$local_socket'");
> PVE::Tunnel::forward_unix_socket($self->{tunnel}, $local_socket, $remote_socket);
> +
> + foreach my $remote_socket (@{ $tunnel_info->{unix_sockets} // [] }) {
> + # untaint
> + ($remote_socket) =
> + $remote_socket =~ m|^(/run/qemu-server/(?:(?!\.\./).)+\.migrate)$|
> + or die "unexpected socket address '$remote_socket'\n";
> + my $local_socket = $remote_socket;
> + $local_socket =~ s/$remote_vmid/$vmid/g;
> + next if $self->{tunnel}->{forwarded}->{$local_socket};
> + $self->log('info', "Setting up tunnel for '$local_socket'");
> + PVE::Tunnel::forward_unix_socket($self->{tunnel}, $local_socket, $remote_socket);
> + }
> + } elsif ($params->{migrate_opts}->{type} eq 'insecure') {
> + die "only TCP sockets are supported for insecure remote migration\n"
> + if $tunnel_info->{proto} ne 'tcp';
> +
> + die "unexpected TCP migration address '$tunnel_info->{addr}'\n"
> + if $tunnel_info->{addr} !~ m/^(?:localhost|[\d\.]+|\[[\d\.:a-fA-F]+\])$/;
> +
> + die "unexpected TCP migration port '$tunnel_info->{port}'\n"
> + if !defined($tunnel_info->{port})
> + || $tunnel_info->{port} !~ /^\d+$/
> + || $tunnel_info->{port} <= 0
> + || $tunnel_info->{port} > 65535;
> +
> + $self->log(
> + 'info',
> + "using direct TCP migration to $tunnel_info->{addr}:$tunnel_info->{port}",
> + );
> + } else {
> + die "unsupported remote migration type '$params->{migrate_opts}->{type}'\n";
> }
> } else {
> ($tunnel_info, $spice_port) = $self->phase2_start_local_cluster($vmid, $params);
> base-commit: e6352be67f70042a7433a3a3c712b36d02f9f7cb
> --
> 2.47.3
>
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-17 14:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-25 1:10 [pve-devel] [RFC] qemu-server: add migration_type=insecure to remote-migrate Bogdan Ionescu
2026-04-30 12:40 ` Fabian Grünbichler
2026-05-14 22:25 ` Bogdan Ionescu
2026-05-14 22:27 ` [PATCH qemu-server] remote migration: allow insecure TCP data plane Bogdan Ionescu
2026-05-14 22:27 ` [PATCH pve-guest-common] tunnel: propagate remote capabilities Bogdan Ionescu
2026-05-15 21:54 ` [PATCH v2 qemu-server] remote migration: allow insecure TCP data plane Bogdan Ionescu
2026-05-15 21:54 ` [PATCH v2 pve-guest-common] tunnel: propagate remote capabilities Bogdan Ionescu
2026-07-13 8:27 ` [pve-devel] [RFC] qemu-server: add migration_type=insecure to remote-migrate Fiona Ebner
2026-08-22 12:48 ` [PATCH v3 qemu-server] remote migration: allow insecure TCP data plane Bogdan Ionescu
2026-10-17 14:06 ` Bogdan Ionescu [this message]
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