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From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server v3 17/22] parse config: allow config keys with minus sign
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 15:28:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d9a28341-93be-48a1-8646-32fdc566f1ad@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c911e11-d1cb-415b-9282-b40faa34dc9b@proxmox.com>

thanks for the reminder on this one.

Am 16/04/2024 um 11:02 schrieb Fiona Ebner:
>> Anyhow, this on it's own would be fine by me, but in any case we
>> should at least document why the formats are mixed would be good, users
>> can be confused by it, and cannot know that most of the "bad" options
>> isn't the fault from the devs currently mainly working on PVE.
>
> Where would be a good place for this? In the appendix for the CLI in the
> admin guide? What exactly is the reason, just that the underscore was
> preferred when the project started out?

Hmm, maybe in the Configuration Files [0] appendix and then link to that
in the CLI one with a note that properties are generally derived from the
config schema?

And yeah, the original snake_case use can probably be attributed a bit to
Perl's and hash key accesses though, because, as you undoubtedly know,
snake_case properties can be used without quotes, unlike, e.g. 'kebab-case'.
But besides that I'd just say different devs and less enforcement of style
lead to the mix.

[0]: https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/pve-admin-guide.html#_configuration_files_2

> Or should I re-spin naming the option "fleecing_images"?

No hard feelings either way, for new properties it is not further
restricting w.r.t. where a backup can be restored, as the new property
needs to be supported there anyway, independent of spelling, so if no
other dev has an opinion here I'd probably keep this as is; but we
really should look into s/_/-/ normalization and acceptance of either
variant for the next major release with some long term goal to sunset
the snake_case variants in the API, for config restore we probably want
to keep it forever. 


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-21 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-11  9:29 [pve-devel] [PATCH-SERIES v3] fix #4136: implement backup fleecing Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v3 01/22] block/copy-before-write: fix permission Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v3 02/22] block/copy-before-write: support unligned snapshot-discard Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v3 03/22] block/copy-before-write: create block_copy bitmap in filter node Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v3 04/22] qapi: blockdev-backup: add discard-source parameter Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v3 05/22] copy-before-write: allow specifying minimum cluster size Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v3 06/22] backup: add minimum cluster size to performance options Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11 18:41   ` [pve-devel] partially-applied: " Thomas Lamprecht
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v3 07/22] PVE backup: add fleecing option Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH common v3 08/22] json schema: add format description for pve-storage-id standard option Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11 17:58   ` [pve-devel] applied: " Thomas Lamprecht
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH guest-common v3 09/22] vzdump: schema: add fleecing property string Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11 18:07   ` [pve-devel] applied: " Thomas Lamprecht
2024-04-12  8:38     ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH guest-common v3 10/22] vzdump: schema: make storage for fleecing semi-optional Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11 18:07   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-04-11 18:07   ` [pve-devel] applied: " Thomas Lamprecht
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [RFC guest-common v3 11/22] abstract config: do not copy fleecing images entry for snapshot Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager v3 12/22] vzdump: have property string helpers always return the result Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager v3 13/22] vzdump: handle new 'fleecing' property string Fiona Ebner
2024-04-22  8:15   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager v3 14/22] api: backup/vzdump: add permission check for fleecing storage Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v3 15/22] backup: disk info: also keep track of size Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v3 16/22] backup: implement fleecing option Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server v3 17/22] parse config: allow config keys with minus sign Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11 17:50   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-04-16  9:02     ` Fiona Ebner
2024-10-21 13:28       ` Thomas Lamprecht [this message]
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server v3 18/22] schema: add fleecing-images config property Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server v3 19/22] vzdump: better cleanup fleecing images after hard errors Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server v3 20/22] migration: attempt to clean up potential left-over fleecing images Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server v3 21/22] destroy vm: " Fiona Ebner
2024-04-11  9:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH docs v3 22/22] vzdump: add section about backup fleecing Fiona Ebner
2024-04-19 15:23 ` [pve-devel] partially-applied: [PATCH-SERIES v3] fix #4136: implement " Fiona Ebner

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