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From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
To: "Proxmox VE development discussion" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	"Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [RFC qemu/storage/qemu-server/container/manager v2 00/25] backup provider API
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:31:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c41972c1-ca35-4517-abc0-c7bb88384189@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1726142378.nmqd5w7on3.astroid@yuna.none>

Am 12/09/2024 um 14:43 schrieb Fabian Grünbichler:
> I do wonder whether we want to support the Borg and Example plugins
> though? if not, it might make sense to not ship them (but maybe just
> test them?)..

FWIW, we could move them to a separate repository named something like
"pve-storage-plugin-examples" which could also host one or two examples
for the storage plugins (like SSHFS). We can then still decide to actually
support it as, e.g., opt-in package(s) built from that repo.

> there's a pretty tight coupling between storage plugin and backup
> provider plugin - that might lead to some complaints (e.g., I can
> imaging quite a few backup providers that just require some local file
> system for temp storage, and users wondering why they can't just enable
> that for an existing dir storage). it does make some things easier
> though, so I am not sure we need to change that, just wanted to draw
> attention to it.

FWIW, if we get feedback and can extract a base for a common use case we
should be able to do something like addinmg a new perl module implementing
most for that use case, on which such providers can then base their
implementation on.


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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-13 13:28 Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v2 01/25] block/reqlist: allow adding overlapping requests Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v2 02/25] PVE backup: fixup error handling for fleecing Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v2 03/25] PVE backup: factor out setting up snapshot access " Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v2 04/25] PVE backup: save device name in device info structure Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v2 05/25] PVE backup: include device name in error when setting up snapshot access fails Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu v2 06/25] PVE backup: add target ID in backup state Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu v2 07/25] PVE backup: get device info: allow caller to specify filter for which devices use fleecing Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu v2 08/25] PVE backup: implement backup access setup and teardown API for external providers Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu v2 09/25] PVE backup: implement bitmap support for external backup access Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC storage v2 10/25] plugin: introduce new_backup_provider() method Fiona Ebner
2024-09-12 12:43   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-12 13:21     ` Fiona Ebner
2024-09-13  6:13       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC storage v2 11/25] extract backup config: delegate to backup provider if there is one Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [POC storage v2 12/25] add backup provider example Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [POC storage v2 13/25] Borg plugin Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v2 14/25] move nbd_stop helper to QMPHelpers module Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v2 15/25] backup: move cleanup of fleecing images to cleanup method Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v2 16/25] backup: cleanup: check if VM is running before issuing QMP commands Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v2 17/25] backup: keep track of block-node size instead of volume size Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server v2 18/25] backup: allow adding fleecing images also for EFI and TPM Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server v2 19/25] backup: implement backup for external providers Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v2 20/25] restore: die early when there is no size for a device Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server v2 21/25] backup: implement restore for external providers Fiona Ebner
2024-09-12 12:44   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-12 13:32     ` Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC container v2 22/25] backup: implement backup " Fiona Ebner
2024-09-12 12:43   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-12 13:38     ` Fiona Ebner
2024-09-13  6:19       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-16 11:40         ` Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC container v2 23/25] backup: implement restore " Fiona Ebner
2024-09-12 12:43   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-12 13:56     ` Fiona Ebner
2024-09-12 14:08       ` Fiona Ebner
2024-09-13  6:35         ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-13 13:05           ` Fiona Ebner
2024-09-19  9:44             ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-13  6:34       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager v2 24/25] ui: backup: also check for backup subtype to classify archive Fiona Ebner
2024-08-13 13:28 ` [pve-devel] [RFC manager v2 25/25] backup: implement backup for external providers Fiona Ebner
2024-09-12 12:43 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu/storage/qemu-server/container/manager v2 00/25] backup provider API Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-12 15:31   ` Thomas Lamprecht [this message]

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