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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>,
	Maximiliano Sandoval <m.sandoval@proxmox.com>
Cc: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu] api: qemu: create: default cpu to x86-64-v2-AES
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 11:56:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ba51d22d-6d7f-46f0-999d-be3d7b2f6566@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <053b9820-fe80-4abf-b774-6f8d5e4da368@proxmox.com>

Am 22.10.24 um 15:35 schrieb Thomas Lamprecht:
> Am 22/10/2024 um 14:15 schrieb Maximiliano Sandoval:
>> Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com> writes:
>>
>>> And even then, would this still break restoring backups made before that
>>> change?
>>> If, this would fall under the changes that need versioning the guest
>>> configs. Which naturally is possible but is IMO also not something I'd
>>> do lightly, as that's something that might have wide-reaching consequences.
>>
>> Would it make more sense to do this only for the CLI tool, and only when creating new VMs?
>>
> 
> Hmm, it would feel a bit odd to me to single that specific "mismatch" between
> UI default and CLI/schema out but ignore the others, like e.g., the memory
> default of 2048, or some dynamic defaults like the OS-type dependent ones.
> 
> And while it would have reduced impact, it would be still a breaking change
> that might affect peoples automation/scripts.
> But if more than just the CPU type would be looked at, and adapted such that
> UI and CLI behave more the same, it might be indeed a feasible way to improve
> UX slightly on the next major release next year.
> Conveying the reason for different defaults and how one can look into which
> one will be applied would warrant a short paragraph in the docs then too.
> And taking the chance and looking at the CT story on this would be great too,
> e.g., like is 512 MB really still a good default for UI/CLI, or unprivileged
> vs. privileged.

Maybe we could have (datacenter-wide?) default profiles (one for
containers, one for VMs) whose values are used for new guest creation?
Users could modify them if desired and they could also be used to
pre-fill values in the UI. Could then be shipped for PVE 9 with sensible
values.


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-23  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-01 14:08 Maximiliano Sandoval
2024-10-02  7:50 ` Shannon Sterz
2024-10-22 11:23 ` Fiona Ebner
2024-10-22 11:35   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-10-22 12:15     ` Maximiliano Sandoval
2024-10-22 13:35       ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-10-23  9:56         ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2024-10-23 11:06           ` Thomas Lamprecht

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