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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Aaron Lauterer <a.lauterer@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH docs] system-requirements: mention that SSDs with PLP should be used
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:02:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b9afa5ca-8c99-4d3d-9c9d-be367efb20dc@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a8ccc082-05ba-44d9-88ad-a0884dc1ac9f@proxmox.com>



Am 20.03.24 um 10:49 schrieb Aaron Lauterer:
> 
> 
> On  2024-03-20  10:30, Fiona Ebner wrote:
>> Am 20.03.24 um 09:56 schrieb Aaron Lauterer:
>>> Signed-off-by: Aaron Lauterer <a.lauterer@proxmox.com>
>>> ---
>>>   pve-system-requirements.adoc | 2 ++
>>>   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/pve-system-requirements.adoc b/pve-system-requirements.adoc
>>> index bc3689d..4db5358 100644
>>> --- a/pve-system-requirements.adoc
>>> +++ b/pve-system-requirements.adoc
>>> @@ -49,6 +49,8 @@ Recommended System Requirements
>>>     (BBU) or non-RAID for ZFS and Ceph. Neither ZFS nor Ceph are
>>> compatible with a
>>>     hardware RAID controller.
>>>   ** Shared and distributed storage is possible.
>>> +** SSDs with Power-Loss-Protection (PLP) are recommended for good
>>> performance.
>>> +  Using consumer SSDs is discouraged.
>>>   
>>
>> Having PLP might correlate with having good performance, but it's not
>> the reason for good performance and good performance is not the reason
>> you want PLP. It's just that both things are present in many enterprise
>> SSDs, I'd mention that explicitly to avoid potential confusion.
> 
> When it comes to sync writes, it is definitely one reason for the good
> performance ;)

Oh, I see. Didn't think about that :)

> But yeah, let's think about it, what about the following?:
> 
> 
> Enterprise grade SSDs are recommended for good performance. Checking for
>  Power-Loss-Protection (PLP) is a good way to avoid consumer grade SSDs.
> The use of consumer grade SSDs is discouraged.
> 
> 
> Not too happy with that either, but phrasing it correctly and succinct
> is an art in itself.
> 

IMHO, it's still succinct enough. But you could also go for "avoid
consumer grade SSDs, whose use is discouraged."

>>
>>>   * Redundant (Multi-)Gbit NICs, with additional NICs depending on
>>> the preferred
>>>     storage technology and cluster setup.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-20 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-20  8:56 Aaron Lauterer
2024-03-20  9:30 ` Fiona Ebner
2024-03-20  9:49   ` Aaron Lauterer
2024-03-20 10:01     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-03-20 10:02     ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2024-03-20 14:48       ` Maximiliano Sandoval
2024-03-21  8:06   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-03-28 13:29     ` Aaron Lauterer
2024-03-21 10:43 ` Aaron Lauterer
2024-03-29 13:11 ` [pve-devel] applied: " Thomas Lamprecht

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