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From: Stefan Hanreich <s.hanreich@proxmox.com>
To: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Cc: Lukas Sichert <l.sichert@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH network] sdn: zones: simple, evpn: do not stack duplicate snat rules
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2026 18:02:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b7588c65-4782-40d2-8b0d-a85f49252f9d@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <179241063976.803488.17141942444436193145@gmail.com>

On 10/20/26 4:04 PM, Dzidula Gati wrote:
> The SNAT and conntrack zone rules are installed with plain
> `iptables -A`/`-I` in post-up. ifupdown2 re-runs post-up when an
> existing interface is reconfigured by `ifreload -a` (e.g. on every
> SDN apply), without running the old post-down first. Each apply
> therefore adds another copy of the same rules.
> 
> Since post-down only removes a single exact match, the extra copies
> are never cleaned up. If the SNAT source address changed in the
> meantime (e.g. the node's IP was changed and SDN re-applied), the
> stale rules also stay in front of the new one, keep matching all
> traffic first and break outbound connectivity of the guests until
> they are removed by hand or the node is rebooted.
> 
> Check whether the rule already exists before adding it, so that
> re-running post-up is idempotent. This does not remove rules that
> were left behind with an outdated source address, but it stops new
> duplicates from being created.

There has been work done on that issue, as well as the remove issue
already here:

https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/20260623133721.29483-1-l.sichert@proxmox.com/T/#t

see also:

https://bugzilla.proxmox.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5066

> Signed-off-by: Dzidula Gati <dzidulajubilee@gmail.com>
> ---
> Tested on PVE 9.2 / ifupdown2 3.3.0: the full test suite passes
> (zones/ipams/dns/subnets/vnets_blackbox, 235/235). Verified in a network
> namespace that running the generated post-up commands repeatedly leaves
> exactly one rule, and a single post-down removes it again.
> 
>  src/PVE/Network/SDN/Zones/EvpnPlugin.pm           | 15 +++++++++------
>  src/PVE/Network/SDN/Zones/SimplePlugin.pm         | 15 +++++++++------
>  .../evpn/exitnode_snat/expected_sdn_interfaces    |  8 ++++----
>  .../zones/simple/ipv4snat/expected_sdn_interfaces |  4 ++--
>  .../zones/simple/ipv6snat/expected_sdn_interfaces |  4 ++--
>  5 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/src/PVE/Network/SDN/Zones/EvpnPlugin.pm b/src/PVE/Network/SDN/Zones/EvpnPlugin.pm
> index 0e79707..5b4efbc 100644
> --- a/src/PVE/Network/SDN/Zones/EvpnPlugin.pm
> +++ b/src/PVE/Network/SDN/Zones/EvpnPlugin.pm
> @@ -282,15 +282,18 @@ sub generate_sdn_config {
>              }
>              if ($outip && $outiface && $is_evpn_gateway) {
>                  #use snat, faster than masquerade
> +                #check before adding, so that re-running post-up on ifreload does not
> +                #stack duplicate rules
> +                my $snat_rule =
> +                    "POSTROUTING -s '$cidr' -o $outiface -j SNAT --to-source $outip";
>                  push @iface_config,
> -                    "post-up $iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s '$cidr' -o $outiface -j SNAT --to-source $outip";
> -                push @iface_config,
> -                    "post-down $iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -s '$cidr' -o $outiface -j SNAT --to-source $outip";
> +                    "post-up $iptables -t nat -C $snat_rule 2>/dev/null || $iptables -t nat -A $snat_rule";
> +                push @iface_config, "post-down $iptables -t nat -D $snat_rule";
>                  #add conntrack zone once on outgoing interface
> +                my $ct_rule = "PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1";
>                  push @iface_config,
> -                    "post-up $iptables -t raw -I PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1";
> -                push @iface_config,
> -                    "post-down $iptables -t raw -D PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1";
> +                    "post-up $iptables -t raw -C $ct_rule 2>/dev/null || $iptables -t raw -I $ct_rule";
> +                push @iface_config, "post-down $iptables -t raw -D $ct_rule";
>              }
>          }
>      }
> diff --git a/src/PVE/Network/SDN/Zones/SimplePlugin.pm b/src/PVE/Network/SDN/Zones/SimplePlugin.pm
> index 347eee9..dac1b55 100644
> --- a/src/PVE/Network/SDN/Zones/SimplePlugin.pm
> +++ b/src/PVE/Network/SDN/Zones/SimplePlugin.pm
> @@ -125,15 +125,18 @@ sub generate_sdn_config {
>              }
>              if ($outip && $outiface) {
>                  #use snat, faster than masquerade
> +                #check before adding, so that re-running post-up on ifreload does not
> +                #stack duplicate rules
> +                my $snat_rule =
> +                    "POSTROUTING -s '$cidr' -o $outiface -j SNAT --to-source $outip";
>                  push @iface_config,
> -                    "post-up $iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s '$cidr' -o $outiface -j SNAT --to-source $outip";
> -                push @iface_config,
> -                    "post-down $iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -s '$cidr' -o $outiface -j SNAT --to-source $outip";
> +                    "post-up $iptables -t nat -C $snat_rule 2>/dev/null || $iptables -t nat -A $snat_rule";
> +                push @iface_config, "post-down $iptables -t nat -D $snat_rule";
>                  #add conntrack zone once on outgoing interface
> +                my $ct_rule = "PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1";
>                  push @iface_config,
> -                    "post-up $iptables -t raw -I PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1";
> -                push @iface_config,
> -                    "post-down $iptables -t raw -D PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1";
> +                    "post-up $iptables -t raw -C $ct_rule 2>/dev/null || $iptables -t raw -I $ct_rule";
> +                push @iface_config, "post-down $iptables -t raw -D $ct_rule";
>              }
>          }
>      }
> diff --git a/src/test/zones/evpn/exitnode_snat/expected_sdn_interfaces b/src/test/zones/evpn/exitnode_snat/expected_sdn_interfaces
> index 0d7d174..8c69da4 100644
> --- a/src/test/zones/evpn/exitnode_snat/expected_sdn_interfaces
> +++ b/src/test/zones/evpn/exitnode_snat/expected_sdn_interfaces
> @@ -3,9 +3,9 @@
>  auto myvnet
>  iface myvnet
>  	address 10.0.0.1/24
> -	post-up iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s '10.0.0.0/24' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.0.1
> +	post-up iptables -t nat -C POSTROUTING -s '10.0.0.0/24' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.0.1 2>/dev/null || iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s '10.0.0.0/24' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.0.1
>  	post-down iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -s '10.0.0.0/24' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.0.1
> -	post-up iptables -t raw -I PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
> +	post-up iptables -t raw -C PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1 2>/dev/null || iptables -t raw -I PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
>  	post-down iptables -t raw -D PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
>  	bridge_ports vxlan_myvnet
>  	bridge_stp off
> @@ -18,9 +18,9 @@ iface myvnet
>  auto myvnet2
>  iface myvnet2
>  	address 2a08:2142:302:3::1/64
> -	post-up ip6tables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s '2a08:2142:302:3::/64' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 2001:db8::2
> +	post-up ip6tables -t nat -C POSTROUTING -s '2a08:2142:302:3::/64' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 2001:db8::2 2>/dev/null || ip6tables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s '2a08:2142:302:3::/64' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 2001:db8::2
>  	post-down ip6tables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -s '2a08:2142:302:3::/64' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 2001:db8::2
> -	post-up ip6tables -t raw -I PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
> +	post-up ip6tables -t raw -C PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1 2>/dev/null || ip6tables -t raw -I PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
>  	post-down ip6tables -t raw -D PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
>  	bridge_ports vxlan_myvnet2
>  	bridge_stp off
> diff --git a/src/test/zones/simple/ipv4snat/expected_sdn_interfaces b/src/test/zones/simple/ipv4snat/expected_sdn_interfaces
> index 69d7986..c527d41 100644
> --- a/src/test/zones/simple/ipv4snat/expected_sdn_interfaces
> +++ b/src/test/zones/simple/ipv4snat/expected_sdn_interfaces
> @@ -3,9 +3,9 @@
>  auto myvnet
>  iface myvnet
>  	address 10.0.0.1/24
> -	post-up iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s '10.0.0.0/24' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.0.1
> +	post-up iptables -t nat -C POSTROUTING -s '10.0.0.0/24' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.0.1 2>/dev/null || iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s '10.0.0.0/24' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.0.1
>  	post-down iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -s '10.0.0.0/24' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.0.1
> -	post-up iptables -t raw -I PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
> +	post-up iptables -t raw -C PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1 2>/dev/null || iptables -t raw -I PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
>  	post-down iptables -t raw -D PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
>  	bridge_ports none
>  	bridge_stp off
> diff --git a/src/test/zones/simple/ipv6snat/expected_sdn_interfaces b/src/test/zones/simple/ipv6snat/expected_sdn_interfaces
> index 5f6d40b..7075c51 100644
> --- a/src/test/zones/simple/ipv6snat/expected_sdn_interfaces
> +++ b/src/test/zones/simple/ipv6snat/expected_sdn_interfaces
> @@ -3,9 +3,9 @@
>  auto myvnet
>  iface myvnet
>  	address 2a08:2142:302:3::1/64
> -	post-up ip6tables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s '2a08:2142:302:3::/64' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 2001:db8::2
> +	post-up ip6tables -t nat -C POSTROUTING -s '2a08:2142:302:3::/64' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 2001:db8::2 2>/dev/null || ip6tables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s '2a08:2142:302:3::/64' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 2001:db8::2
>  	post-down ip6tables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -s '2a08:2142:302:3::/64' -o vmbr0 -j SNAT --to-source 2001:db8::2
> -	post-up ip6tables -t raw -I PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
> +	post-up ip6tables -t raw -C PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1 2>/dev/null || ip6tables -t raw -I PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
>  	post-down ip6tables -t raw -D PREROUTING -i fwbr+ -j CT --zone 1
>  	bridge_ports none
>  	bridge_stp off





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2026-10-19 11:50 [PATCH network] sdn: zones: simple, evpn: do not stack duplicate snat rules Dzidula Gati
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