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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: "DERUMIER, Alexandre" <alexandre.derumier@groupe-cyllene.com>,
	"pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [RFC guest-common 09/13] vzdump: schema: add fleecing property string
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 09:30:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b03e79b5-0873-4a3d-9edf-d0538f5c2724@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <919828da989cf0165642586779125db3ee68a5d7.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>

Am 01.02.24 um 22:33 schrieb DERUMIER, Alexandre:
> 
>>> To clarify, with my "VM-specific" proposal I mean: The backup job
>>> decides whether to use fleecing or not. The VM decides which storage
>>> to
>>> use for fleecing.
> 
> 
> Personnaly, for my usage, I prefer to define fleecing storage in backup
> job. (as we only define 1 backup storage in 1 job, and my problem to
> solve is the slow backup storage).
> 
> 
> 
> But Maybe, indeed, some users would like to choose "use same storage
> than disk" , or choose a specific fleecing storage for a specific vm.
> So, maybe add an extra override option in vm options or directly on
> disk ? I really don't known :)  
> 
> Maybe try a simple option on backup job first, then add extra options
> at vm level if users want it ?
> 

Yes, I think I'll go that route for now. And require users to choose a
specific storage instead of having a default. A default can still be
added later. "Use same storage as disk" also has the issue of
duplicating writes to the same storage with copy-before-write, which is
not the best for performance either, especially for NFS/CIFS.




  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-02  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-25 14:41 [pve-devel] [RFC qemu/guest-common/manager/qemu-server/docs 00/13] fix #4136: implement backup fleecing Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu 01/13] backup: factor out gathering device info into helper Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu 02/13] backup: get device info: code cleanup Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu 03/13] block/io: clear BDRV_BLOCK_RECURSE flag after recursing in bdrv_co_block_status Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu 04/13] block/copy-before-write: create block_copy bitmap in filter node Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu 05/13] qapi: blockdev-backup: add discard-source parameter Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [HACK qemu 06/13] block/{copy-before-write, snapshot-access}: implement bdrv_co_get_info driver callback Fiona Ebner
2024-01-29 14:35   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [HACK qemu 07/13] block/block-copy: always consider source cluster size too Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu 08/13] PVE backup: add fleecing option Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [RFC guest-common 09/13] vzdump: schema: add fleecing property string Fiona Ebner
2024-01-29 15:41   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-01-30 14:03     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2024-02-01  8:28       ` Fiona Ebner
2024-02-01 12:39     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2024-02-01 13:11       ` Fiona Ebner
2024-02-01 13:20         ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2024-02-01 13:27           ` Fiona Ebner
2024-02-01 21:33             ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2024-02-02  8:30               ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2024-02-01 13:30           ` Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [RFC manager 10/13] vzdump: handle new 'fleecing' " Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server 11/13] backup: disk info: also keep track of size Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server 12/13] backup: implement fleecing option Fiona Ebner
2024-01-29 15:28   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 14:41 ` [pve-devel] [RFC docs 13/13] vzdump: add section about backup fleecing Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 16:13   ` Dietmar Maurer
2024-01-25 16:41     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2024-01-25 18:18       ` Dietmar Maurer
2024-01-26  8:39         ` Fiona Ebner
2024-01-25 16:02 ` [pve-devel] [RFC qemu/guest-common/manager/qemu-server/docs 00/13] fix #4136: implement " DERUMIER, Alexandre

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