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From: Lukas Wagner <l.wagner@proxmox.com>
To: Dominik Csapak <d.csapak@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 many 00/66] fix #4156: introduce new notification system
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 15:14:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4ed197e-1c61-7d07-b418-3126607d4363@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f4d88987-6aec-22d5-6635-ceccb3f30d64@proxmox.com>

On 7/18/23 14:34, Dominik Csapak wrote:
> gave the series a quick spin, review of the gui patches comes later ;)
> 
> a few high level comments from a user perspective:
> 
> * the node fencing/replication edit windows always shows the warning that it shouldn't be
>    disabled, that should imo only be there if i select 'never' ?
>    (conversely, the package update window never shows the warning...)
Good point, I'll try to make it only show up if 'never' is selected.
The warning came actually to be as an input from Aaron, so that user's don't turn
off stuff for critical events without knowing what they are doing.
I didn't add them to the package update notifications because there, the setting
already existed in datacenter config without a warning and it seemed less critical to me.
But yeah, I guess it would make sense to add it there as well.

> * when we have this, we could remove the pacakge notify line from the datacenter options, no?

Yes, you are right, forgot about that.

> * imho having "Notification Targets" directly below "Notifications" is a bit redundant
>    (and wasting space), but it's just a minor thing

True, I can probably remove that, since it's already clear from the menu on the left-hand side.

> * the filter 'mode' is also not exposed on the gui (intentionally?)> * also the mode is not quite clear since only one filter can be active per target?
>    (or is it meant when there are multiple filter by means of notification groups?)> * what is a filter without a minimum severity? what does it do?
>    (does it make sense to allow such filters in the first place?)

Filters will be extended in the future so that they can match on multiple properties.
Every notification has a severity as well as arbitrary metadata attached to it (e.g. could be
hostname, backup-job ID, etc.).

In future, a filter could be like

filter: foo
     mode and|or
     min-severity error
     match-property hostname=pali


So here, the mode determines if `min-severity` AND/OR `match-property` have to match.
That is also the reason why a filter without min-severity can exist.

Also, I'm thinking of supporting 'sub-filters':

filter: foo
     mode or
     sub-filter a
     sub-filter b

filter: a
     mode and
     min-severity error
     match-property hostname=pali

filter: b
     mode and
     min-severity info
     match-property hostname=haya

`mode`, `invert-match` and `sub-filter` together basically would allow users to
create arbitrarily complex filter 'formulas'.


I already have patches laying around that implement the additional filter matchers, but
decided to not include them in the patch series yet. Before the new matchers are merged,
I would need to 'stabilize' the properties associate with every single notification event,
as at that point those become part of our public facing API. At the moment, the properties
are only an implementation detail that is used for rendering notification templates.

This is also the reason why the filter implementation (filter.rs) is somewhat overkill
atm for _just_ severity filtering. Everything needed for these advanced features is already
in place - because I already implemented that stuff and cut it out later for the patch series.

> * the backup edit window is rather tall at this point, and if we assume a minimum
>    screen size of 1280x720 there is not quite enough space when you subtract
>    the (typical) os bar and browser window decoration, maybe a 'notification'
>    tab would be better (we already have some tabs there anyway)

Good point, will look into that.

> * i found one bug, but not quite sure yet where it comes from exactly,
>    putting in emojis into a field (e.g. a comment or author) it's accepted,
>    but editing a different entry fails with:
> 
> --->8---
> could not serialize configuration: writing 'notifications.cfg' failed: detected unexpected control character in section 'testgroup' key 'comment' (500)
> ---8<---
> 
> not sure where the utf-8 info gets lost. (or we could limit all fields to ascii?)
> such a notification target still works AFAICT (but if set as e.g. the author it's
> probably the wrong value)
> 
> (i used 😀 as a test)

I will investigate, thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> otherwise works AFAICT
> 

Thanks so much for giving this a spin!

-- 
- Lukas




  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-18 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-17 14:59 Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 01/66] add proxmox-notify crate Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 02/66] notify: preparation for the first endpoint plugin Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:48   ` Maximiliano Sandoval
2023-07-18  7:19     ` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-18 10:13       ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-18 11:54   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 03/66] notify: preparation for the API Lukas Wagner
2023-07-18 12:02   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 04/66] notify: api: add API for sending notifications/testing endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 05/66] notify: add sendmail plugin Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 06/66] notify: api: add API for sendmail endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-07-18 12:36   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-19 11:51     ` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19 12:09       ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 07/66] notify: add gotify endpoint Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 08/66] notify: api: add API for gotify endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-07-18 12:44   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-18 13:19     ` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 09/66] notify: add notification groups Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 10/66] notify: api: add API for groups Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 11/66] notify: add notification filter mechanism Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 12/66] notify: api: add API for filters Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 13/66] notify: add template rendering Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 14:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 14/66] notify: add example for " Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 15/66] notify: add context Lukas Wagner
2023-07-18 12:57   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 16/66] notify: sendmail: allow users as recipients Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 17/66] notify: sendmail: query default author/mailfrom from context Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 18/66] notify: gotify: add proxy support Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 19/66] notify: api: allow to query entities referenced by filter/target Lukas Wagner
2023-07-18 13:02   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 20/66] notify: on deletion, check if a filter/endp. is still used by anything Lukas Wagner
2023-07-18 13:20   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 21/66] notify: ensure that filter/group/endpoint names are unique Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 22/66] notify: additional logging when sending a notification Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox 23/66] notify: add debian packaging Lukas Wagner
2023-07-18 13:25   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-perl-rs 24/66] add PVE::RS::Notify module Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19 10:10   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-19 10:23     ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-19 10:37       ` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-perl-rs 25/66] notify: add api for sending notifications/testing endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-perl-rs 26/66] notify: add api for notification groups Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-perl-rs 27/66] notify: add api for sendmail endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-perl-rs 28/66] notify: add api for gotify endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-perl-rs 29/66] notify: add api for notification filters Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-perl-rs 30/66] notify: sendmail: support the `mailto-user` parameter Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-perl-rs 31/66] notify: implement context for getting default author/mailfrom Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19 11:15   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-perl-rs 32/66] notify: add context for getting http_proxy from datacenter.cfg Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-perl-rs 33/66] notify: add wrapper for `get_referenced_entities` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-cluster 34/66] cluster files: add notifications.cfg Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-cluster 35/66] datacenter: add APT/fencing/replication notification configuration Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-cluster 36/66] add libpve-notify-perl package Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19 12:27   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-guest-common 37/66] vzdump: add config options for new notification backend Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-common 38/66] JSONSchema: increase maxLength of config-digest to 64 Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19 12:31   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-19 12:41   ` Fiona Ebner
2023-07-19 12:49     ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-ha-manager 39/66] manager: send notifications via new notification module Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 40/66] test: fix names of .PHONY targets Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 41/66] d/control: add dependency to `libpve-notify-perl` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 42/66] vzdump: send notifications via new notification module Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 43/66] test: rename mail_test.pl to vzdump_notification_test.pl Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 44/66] api: apt: send notification via new notification module Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 45/66] api: replication: send notifications " Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 46/66] api: prepare api handler module for notification config Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 47/66] api: notification: add api routes for groups Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 48/66] api: notification: add api routes for sendmail endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 49/66] api: notification: add api routes for gotify endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 50/66] api: notification: add api routes for filters Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 51/66] api: notification: allow fetching notification targets Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 52/66] api: notification: allow to test targets Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 53/66] api: notification: disallow removing targets if they are used Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 54/66] ui: backup: allow to select notification target for jobs Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19 12:20   ` Dominik Csapak
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 55/66] ui: backup: adapt backup job details to new notification params Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 56/66] ui: backup: allow to set notification-target for one-off backups Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 57/66] ui: allow to configure notification event -> target mapping Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19 12:45   ` Dominik Csapak
2023-07-19 15:25     ` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 58/66] ui: add notification target configuration panel Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 59/66] ui: perm path: load notification target/filter acl entries Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19 12:53   ` Dominik Csapak
2023-07-20  7:46     ` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-20  7:54       ` Dominik Csapak
2023-07-20  8:22         ` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-20  8:29           ` Fiona Ebner
2023-07-20  9:26             ` Maximiliano Sandoval
2023-07-20 15:02               ` Thomas Lamprecht
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-manager 60/66] ui: perm path: increase width of the perm path selector combobox Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-widget-toolkit 61/66] notification: add gui for sendmail notification endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19 13:25   ` Dominik Csapak
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-widget-toolkit 62/66] notification: add gui for gotify " Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-widget-toolkit 63/66] notification: add gui for notification groups Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19 13:32   ` Dominik Csapak
2023-07-20 12:31     ` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-widget-toolkit 64/66] notification: allow to select filter for notification targets Lukas Wagner
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-widget-toolkit 65/66] notification: add ui for managing notification filters Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19 13:53   ` Dominik Csapak
2023-07-17 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 pve-docs 66/66] add documentation for the new notification system Lukas Wagner
2023-07-18 12:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v3 many 00/66] fix #4156: introduce " Dominik Csapak
2023-07-18 13:14   ` Lukas Wagner [this message]
2023-07-18 13:58     ` Dominik Csapak
2023-07-18 14:07       ` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-18 14:37   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2023-07-19 13:13     ` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19  8:40   ` Lukas Wagner
2023-07-19  9:54     ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-18 13:27 ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-19 12:11 ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-07-19 12:17   ` Lukas Wagner

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