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From: "Daniel Kral" <d.kral@proxmox.com>
To: "Daniel Kral" <d.kral@proxmox.com>,
	"Thomas Lamprecht" <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>,
	"Proxmox VE development discussion" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH perl-rs v3 1/2] pve-rs: resource_scheduling: allow granular usage changes
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 11:12:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DE8C5ETG9X1T.3EP8387QJUQG0@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DE7GMV8BLU0Q.2YW1KSZVJMGNV@proxmox.com>

On Thu Nov 13, 2025 at 10:30 AM CET, Daniel Kral wrote:
> On Wed Nov 12, 2025 at 11:49 AM CET, Thomas Lamprecht wrote:
>> Am 27.10.25 um 17:46 schrieb Daniel Kral:
>>> Needs a build dependency bump for
>>> librust-proxmox-resource-scheduling-dev and a versioned breaks for
>>> pve-ha-manager.
>>
>> The latter only due to the (signature) change to add_service_usage_to_node, or?
>> While versioned breaks can be done, if it's somewhat easy to avoid them it's
>> always better to do so, especially as it makes downgrades much easier 
>>
>> Can we keep backward compat without having to bend to
>> much backwards? E.g. adding a new method for the new more granular way while
>> keeping add_service_usage_to_node as is, like "record_service_usage_for_node" (or
>> just slap a 2 at the end of the method name is also a simple trick that, while not
>> beautiful, works and avoids bikeshedding).
>
> I'd go for that route, but the new `sid` parameter is needed to track on
> which node a service puts its load on, i.e. where we need to remove it
> later. That's information we didn't get before and we unfortunately
> cannot make it optional, e.g. shoving it in the already existing
> StaticNodeUsage as a Option<_> field. (Haven't tested it yet, but this
> shouldn't be an API break for perlmod?)
>
> Another approach would be to allow both the non-granular and granular
> behavior to coexist - at least for the 9.x series, even though it might
> be a little ugly, it's probably not too bad.
>
> What do you think?

As noted off-list, I've gone with staying the breaking change for v4
now, as there's no neet way to do this otherwise.


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  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-14 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-27 16:43 [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager/perl-rs/proxmox v3 00/11] Granular online_node_usage accounting Daniel Kral
2025-10-27 16:43 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox v3 1/1] resource-scheduling: change score_nodes_to_start_service signature Daniel Kral
2025-11-12 11:01   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-11-13  8:58     ` Daniel Kral
2025-10-27 16:43 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH perl-rs v3 1/2] pve-rs: resource_scheduling: allow granular usage changes Daniel Kral
2025-11-12 10:49   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-11-13  9:30     ` Daniel Kral
2025-11-14 10:12       ` Daniel Kral [this message]
2025-10-27 16:43 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH perl-rs v3 2/2] test: resource_scheduling: use score_nodes helper to imitate HA Manager Daniel Kral
2025-10-27 16:43 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager v3 1/8] manager: remove redundant recompute_online_node_usage from next_state_recovery Daniel Kral
2025-10-27 16:43 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager v3 2/8] manager: remove redundant add_service_usage_to_node " Daniel Kral
2025-10-27 16:43 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager v3 3/8] manager: remove redundant add_service_usage_to_node from next_state_started Daniel Kral
2025-10-27 16:43 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager v3 4/8] rules: resource affinity: decouple get_resource_affinity helper from Usage class Daniel Kral
2025-11-03 15:50   ` Michael Köppl
2025-11-03 16:01     ` Daniel Kral
2025-10-27 16:43 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager v3 5/8] manager: make recompute_online_node_usage use add_service_usage helper Daniel Kral
2025-10-27 16:43 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager v3 6/8] usage: allow granular changes to Usage implementations Daniel Kral
2025-10-27 16:43 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager v3 7/8] manager: make online node usage computation granular Daniel Kral
2025-10-27 16:43 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager v3 8/8] implement static service stats cache Daniel Kral
2025-11-14 10:13 ` [pve-devel] superseded: [PATCH ha-manager/perl-rs/proxmox v3 00/11] Granular online_node_usage accounting Daniel Kral

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