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From: "Max R. Carrara" <m.carrara@proxmox.com>
To: "Lorne Guse" <boomshankerx@hotmail.com>,
	"Morgan Littlewood" <morgan@truenas.com>
Cc: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] TrueNAS over iSCSI: Snapshot Management
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2025 15:17:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DDB9O2XSSOP9.3I8N8PYCCJWXE@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR17MB3466C924D9FC9565703D5B64D0E3A@DM6PR17MB3466.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon Oct 6, 2025 at 3:09 AM CEST, Lorne Guse wrote:
> [...]

Hi Lorne, hi Morgan!

Sorry—only now finally got some time to look into this.

Regarding multi-generational snapshot rollbacks: That is something
that's possible actually; our `lvm-thin` storage supports that, for
example [0]. You're probably running into the default implementation [1],
hence the error.

We don't support it for our ZFS pool storage though [2] (and thus also
not for the ZFS over iSCSI storages), since `zfs rollback` doesn't
support it without destroying intermediate snapshots [3].

The user can still do rollbacks on older snapshots, they just have to
delete the intermediate ones first, in this case. (So basically what
`zfs rollback` requires one to do.)

With all that being said, I agree with Morgan here; it's best to just
let PVE manage the snapshots and whatever contents are on the volume, as
it is a cleaner experience for the user. (Principle of least surprise
and all that.)

Hope that helps! If you need anything else, feel free to ping me! (:

[0]: https://git.proxmox.com/?p=pve-storage.git;a=blob;f=src/PVE/Storage/LvmThinPlugin.pm;h=ccefd0eb24630a4ae5e206002760126dfce9304a;hb=refs/heads/master#l366
[1]: https://git.proxmox.com/?p=pve-storage.git;a=blob;f=src/PVE/Storage/Plugin.pm;h=2291d72d929b9de83f7703aae146372e4b663860;hb=refs/heads/master#l1325
[2]: https://git.proxmox.com/?p=pve-storage.git;a=blob;f=src/PVE/Storage/ZFSPoolPlugin.pm;h=3b3456b7482ad4388a757e80484412384a677da1;hb=refs/heads/master#l551
[3]: https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/man/master/8/zfs-rollback.8.html


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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2025-10-05  4:11 ` Lorne Guse via pve-devel
     [not found] ` <DM6PR17MB346659F576D1D081C71CCC6DD0E2A@DM6PR17MB3466.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
2025-10-05 22:02   ` Morgan Littlewood via pve-devel
     [not found]   ` <CABr3vq+8FF-T0NC=aTXq6ke_PgSYjJhbo0Pk4BPT64vRHbMC+w@mail.gmail.com>
2025-10-06  1:09     ` Lorne Guse via pve-devel
     [not found]     ` <DM6PR17MB3466C924D9FC9565703D5B64D0E3A@DM6PR17MB3466.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>
2025-10-06 13:17       ` Max R. Carrara [this message]
2025-10-06 19:59         ` Morgan Littlewood via pve-devel
2025-09-27 16:45 Lorne Guse via pve-devel

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