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From: "Daniel Kral" <d.kral@proxmox.com>
To: "Proxmox VE development discussion" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Cc: "pve-devel" <pve-devel-bounces@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager/manager/proxmox-widget-toolkit 0/3] remove
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:41:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DCWUTHDDHUBQ.I004WXSXZD8E@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250919140620.243497-1-m.koeppl@proxmox.com>

On Fri Sep 19, 2025 at 4:06 PM CEST, Michael Köppl wrote:
> Even though groups have been replaced with rules in PVE 9, the guest
> summary still displayed "Groups: none" for VMs and CTs. This patch
> series removes this information from the HA status information and also
> removes the remnants of it in the widget-toolkit and ha-manager.
>
> The patch series does not add information about rules as a replacement
> for the following reasons:
> - There is no 1:1 mapping of resources to groups anymore, so a resource
>   could potentially have many rules, cluttering the summary page
> - Finding the rules that reference the given resource adds more
>   complexity compared to finding the group for information that can be
>   be viewed in a less cluttered manner on the rules page.

Thanks!

The changes look good to me.

Just to link these here, there were two community forum posts [0] and
[1], which added some more viewpoints how HA groups are/were used and
what could still be improved for the HA rules.

The pain points were primarily that users could add/remove HA resources
to/from HA groups directly through the VM/CT in the web interface under
More > Manage HA and then select the assigned HA group there, instead of
going to the Datacenter > HA tab.

For HA node affinity rules, the former isn't possible anymore and the
main workflow is to add the HA resources and then add them to a node
affinity rule in bulk there. I'm not sure how we could improve that yet.

[0] https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/172190/

Anyway:

Reviewed-by: Daniel Kral <d.kral@proxmox.com>


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-19 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-19 14:06 Michael Köppl
2025-09-19 14:06 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager 1/1] ui: ha: remove group info from HA status string in guest status view Michael Köppl
2025-09-19 14:06 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH widget-toolkit 1/1] remove unused groupText mapping Michael Köppl
2025-09-19 14:06 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 1/1] config: remove groups field from service status data Michael Köppl
2025-09-19 14:41 ` Daniel Kral [this message]
2025-09-19 15:06   ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager/manager/proxmox-widget-toolkit 0/3] remove Michael Köppl

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