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From: "Max Carrara" <m.carrara@proxmox.com>
To: "Thomas Lamprecht" <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>,
	"Proxmox VE development discussion" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	"Fiona Ebner" <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH storage v7 12/37] plugin: introduce new_backup_provider() method
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 16:02:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D8W7IX7G6IY1.25AERCFB0J5VL@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90f40373-7f18-4af0-8f38-d9b36b04f3dd@proxmox.com>

On Wed Apr 2, 2025 at 12:44 PM CEST, Thomas Lamprecht wrote:
> Am 02.04.25 um 12:01 schrieb Max Carrara:
> >> +    use base qw(PVE::BackupProvider::Plugin::Base);
> > You can `use parent ...` here, as that's more lightweight. `base` is
> > fine too though.
> > 
> > See: https://perldoc.perl.org/parent
> > 
> > Only difference is that `use parent ...` doesn't support the `fields`
> > pragma, but that doesn't apply here anyway :P
>
> Please don't, let's stop deviate from a widely used pattern without any
> real benefit, i.e. let's not do churn/refactoring for the sake of itself.
>
> I.e.:
>
> # rg -o '^\s*use baSE' /usr/share/perl5/PVE/ /usr/share/perl5/Proxmox/ | wc -l
> 0
>
> # rg -o '^\s*use base' /usr/share/perl5/PVE/ /usr/share/perl5/Proxmox/ | wc -l
> 259
>
> If it really has some benefit then lets move the whole code base
> over to avoid a mix. And that would then be best done by creating
> a transformation like a sed invocation, or if needed, a more semantic
> patch like Coccinelle, and let a maintainer with broad push access
> apply that directly.
> Until then lets keep one of the few things where we actually managed
> to just use a single consistent style consistent...

ACK! Fair point.

>
>
> Am 02.04.25 um 12:01 schrieb Max Carrara:
> > Not sure if we actually want to enforce this though; alternatively, we
> > could let some kind of dev tooling check for "conformance" like that. It
> > can quickly get too messy otherwise [rfc].
> > 
> > [rfc]: https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/20250130145124.317745-1-m.carrara@proxmox.com/
>
> Only very basic and most important things should be enforcement,
> please no (over-engineered) code for things where one can just lose
> anyway. Any more involved checks should happen as dev tooling. I.e.,
> some sort of test suite for this and also a similar one for storage
> plugins – that probably can share a few building blocks – would be
> much nicer and more helpful. In the long term that even could involve
> to a conformance test suite, but I'd rather prefer starting out simple.

Yeah I agree; I was mainly just mentioning this as an idea here. There
are other things that need to be sorted out first anyways. :P



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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-01 17:33 [pve-devel] [PATCH-SERIES qemu/storage/qemu-server/container/manager v7 00/37] backup provider API Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:33 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v7 01/37] PVE backup: clean up directly in setup_snapshot_access() when it fails Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v7 02/37] PVE backup: factor out helper to clear backup state's bitmap list Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v7 03/37] PVE backup: factor out helper to initialize backup state stat struct Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v7 04/37] PVE backup: add target ID in backup state Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v7 05/37] PVE backup: get device info: allow caller to specify filter for which devices use fleecing Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v7 06/37] PVE backup: implement backup access setup and teardown API for external providers Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v7 07/37] PVE backup: factor out get_single_device_info() helper Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v7 08/37] PVE backup: implement bitmap support for external backup access Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu v7 09/37] PVE backup: backup-access api: indicate situation where a bitmap was recreated Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage v7 10/37] add storage_has_feature() helper function Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage v7 11/37] common: add deallocate " Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage v7 12/37] plugin: introduce new_backup_provider() method Fiona Ebner
2025-04-02 10:01   ` Max Carrara
2025-04-02 10:44     ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-04-02 14:02       ` Max Carrara [this message]
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage v7 13/37] config api/plugins: let plugins define sensitive properties themselves Fiona Ebner
2025-04-02 10:01   ` Max Carrara
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage v7 14/37] plugin api: bump api version and age Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage v7 15/37] extract backup config: delegate to backup provider for storages that support it Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [POC storage v7 16/37] add backup provider example Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [POC storage v7 17/37] Borg example plugin Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v7 18/37] backup: keep track of block-node size for fleecing Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v7 19/37] backup: fleecing: use exact size when allocating non-raw fleecing images Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v7 20/37] backup: allow adding fleecing images also for EFI and TPM Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v7 21/37] backup: implement backup for external providers Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v7 22/37] test: qemu img convert: add test cases for snapshots Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v7 23/37] image convert: collect options in hash argument Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v7 24/37] image convert: allow caller to specify the format of the source path Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v7 25/37] backup: implement restore for external providers Fiona Ebner
2025-04-02  9:10   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v7 26/37] backup: future-proof checks for QEMU feature support Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v7 27/37] backup: support 'missing-recreated' bitmap action Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v7 28/37] backup: bitmap action to human: lie about TPM state Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH container v7 29/37] add LXC::Namespaces module Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH container v7 30/37] backup: implement backup for external providers Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH container v7 31/37] backup: implement restore " Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH container v7 32/37] external restore: don't use 'one-file-system' tar flag when restoring from a directory Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH container v7 33/37] create: factor out compression option helper Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH container v7 34/37] restore tar archive: check potentially untrusted archive Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH container v7 35/37] api: add early check against restoring privileged container from external source Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager v7 36/37] ui: backup: also check for backup subtype to classify archive Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 17:34 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager v7 37/37] backup: implement backup for external providers Fiona Ebner
2025-04-02 15:15 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH-SERIES qemu/storage/qemu-server/container/manager v7 00/37] backup provider API Friedrich Weber
2025-04-03  7:52   ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2025-04-03 13:55     ` Friedrich Weber
2025-04-04  7:30   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-03 13:11 ` [pve-devel] superseded: " Wolfgang Bumiller

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