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From: Pablo Ruiz <pablo.ruiz@gmail.com>
To: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] Allow dynamic pool name discovery on ZFSPoolPlugin
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 17:34:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHfDCQJO55qWPQBzZ4HfzDACNYKww6HpHPZ2aMZB8tu4PEKr2Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57EF5F8B433A6742AD548ABECE78FE4853930A@hal9001.straightec.lokal>

Cause the dataset lies at different pools on each server group:


   - old servers: rpool/data
   - new servers: newpool/data

You can only rename pools (or datasets) within their own.

Regards
Pablo


On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 8:55 AM Carsten Härle <Carsten.Haerle@straightec.de>
wrote:

> Why not just rename the ZFS-dataset on the old server with "zfs rename"?
> Seems to be much easier than implementing a separate feature.
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: pve-devel [mailto:pve-devel-bounces@lists.proxmox.com] Im Auftrag
> von Thomas Lamprecht
> Gesendet: Montag, 23. November 2020 08:50
> An: Proxmox VE development discussion; Pablo Ruiz;
> pve-devel@pve.proxmox.com; Fabian Ebner
> Betreff: Re: [pve-devel] Allow dynamic pool name discovery on ZFSPoolPlugin
>
> Hi,
>
> On 21.11.20 14:08, Pablo Ruiz wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just made a little custom storage plugin which basically
> > overrides/extends ZFSPoolPluging so the pool name instead of being fixed,
> > can be 'dynamically' guessed on each cluster node.
> >
> > While adding some new nodes to one of our current clusters, due to
> hardware
> > differences, we ended up with new nodes having a different zpool's layout
> > than the already existing nodes. Our existing nodes had a pool named
> > 'rpool/data' (a dataset nested into system's main pool). While the new
> > nodes have a dedicated pool (data) independent of 'rpool'. So we needed a
> > way to have the same storage use different backing zfs pools on each
> server
> > (ie. on old servers it should use 'rpool/data', while on newer ones it
> > should be using 'data').
> >
> > Currently proxmox does not allow overriding an storage.cfg's property
> > 'per-node'. So we came up with a simple custom plugin which basically
> looks
> > up the pool with an attribute like 'pve:id=$storeid', and uses this pool
> > obtained dynamically.
> >
> > We could have simply added a new store with a different id, but that
> would
> > break our orchestration and automatic deployment of machines, and add
> some
> > additional management issues by having to track the store of each
> machine,
> > specially if/when moving vms around.
> >
> > That said, the plugin works, but I think this feature may be of use to
> > others. Would a patch against upstream ZFSPoolPlugin accepted, so we can
> > avoid this custom plugin in the future?
> >
> > I've posted the custom plugin as a gist:
> > https://gist.github.com/pruiz/5d7fbd75efb413ac15d2d0e3ef54f32a
> >
>
> thanks for sharing your solution!
>
> It's an interesting way to solve this, the thing I do not really like, is
> that the storage config is now not the only single source of truth for
> "which pool to use/import" anymore
>
> We could actually add a nodename to pool mapping as a property to the
> ZFS Pool storage config schema instead, that'd would keep this information
> contained to the configuration and make lookup a bit cheaper.
>
> cheers,
> Thomas
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-23 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-21 13:08 Pablo Ruiz
2020-11-23  7:49 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-11-23  7:54   ` Carsten Härle
2020-11-23 16:34     ` Pablo Ruiz [this message]
2020-11-23 16:34   ` Pablo Ruiz

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