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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Daniel Kral <d.kral@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 6/9] config, manager: factor out resource motion info logic
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:35:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <97862bcf-38f4-49d7-b0aa-c31293343386@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DFTB4LGIGHEW.3CV4PZV557LMA@proxmox.com>

Am 20.01.26 um 10:25 AM schrieb Daniel Kral:
> On Mon Jan 19, 2026 at 4:24 PM CET, Daniel Kral wrote:
>> On Mon Jan 19, 2026 at 4:00 PM CET, Fiona Ebner wrote:
>>> Am 15.12.25 um 4:55 PM schrieb Daniel Kral:
>>>> The logic in execute_migration(...) and get_resource_motion_info(...) to
>>>> gather dependent and blocking HA resources is equivalent and should also
>>>> be the same for consistency, so factor them out as a separate helper.
>>>>
>>>> The PVE::HA::Helpers package is introduced since there does not exist a
>>>> package for shared logic between packages, which cannot depend on each
>>>> other (e.g. Manager and Config, LRM and CRM, etc.) and PVE::HA::Tools is
>>>> not the right place for these.
>>>
>>> It is a rather specific helper and PVE::HA::Helpers sounds very general.
>>> Could we also put it in PVE::HA::Rules::Helpers or somewhere else below
>>> PVE::HA::Rules or is there a good reason not to?
>>
>> Not really, I've thought of PVE::HA::Rules::Helpers as a module for
>> helpers for the rules themselves instead of users of the rules, but it
>> makes sense to share rules-related helpers in a single module, so I'll
>> move it there too.
> 
> Oh wait, just noticed that this would create a circular dependency,
> because get_resource_motion_info(...) uses get_affinitive_resources(...)
> from PVE::HA::Rules::ResourceAffinity, and
> PVE::HA::Rules::ResourceAffinity in turn uses PVE::HA::Rules::Helpers
> again..
> 
> I'd tend to let get_resource_motion_info(...) stay in PVE::HA::Helpers,
> or do you have other ideas?

Okay, so get_resource_motion_info() depends on:
PVE::HA::Rules::NodeAffinity
PVE::HA::Rules::ResourceAffinity

And in fact, having a PVE::HA::Helpers depend on those two seems bad for
moving forward, because it means that those two modules won't be able to
use PVE::HA::Helpers without creating a circular dependency. Ideally,
the PVE::HA::Helpers module would not have such dependencies and be
usable from essentially any other HA module.

So considering the two dependencies, what about putting
get_resource_motion_info() in PVE::HA::Rules itself? It is a more
top-level function that depends on the rule submodules, so that seems to
be a fitting place.


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  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-20  9:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-15 15:52 [pve-devel] [PATCH-SERIES container/ha-manager/manager/qemu-server 00/12] HA node affinity blockers (#1497) Daniel Kral
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 1/9] ha: put source files on individual new lines Daniel Kral
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 2/9] d/pve-ha-manager.install: remove duplicate Config.pm Daniel Kral
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 3/9] config: group and sort use statements Daniel Kral
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 4/9] manager: " Daniel Kral
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 5/9] manager: report all reasons when resources are blocked from migration Daniel Kral
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 6/9] config, manager: factor out resource motion info logic Daniel Kral
2026-01-19 15:00   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-01-19 15:24     ` Daniel Kral
2026-01-20  9:25       ` Daniel Kral
2026-01-20  9:35         ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2026-01-20 10:37           ` Daniel Kral
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 7/9] tests: add test cases for migrating resources with node affinity rules Daniel Kral
2026-01-19 15:00   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 8/9] handle strict node affinity rules in manual migrations Daniel Kral
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 9/9] handle node affinity rules with failback " Daniel Kral
2026-01-19 15:00   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-01-19 15:41     ` Daniel Kral
2026-01-20  9:52       ` Fiona Ebner
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 1/1] api: migration preconditions: add node affinity as blocking cause Daniel Kral
2026-01-19 15:00   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-01-19 16:55     ` Daniel Kral
2026-01-20  9:07       ` Fiona Ebner
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH container " Daniel Kral
2025-12-15 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager 1/1] ui: migrate: display precondition messages for ha node affinity Daniel Kral
2026-01-19 15:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH-SERIES container/ha-manager/manager/qemu-server 00/12] HA node affinity blockers (#1497) Fiona Ebner

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