From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: "Daniel Kral" <d.kral@proxmox.com>,
"Proxmox VE development discussion" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
"Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 09/15] manager: apply colocation rules when selecting service nodes
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 11:22:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6f50fe21-7b15-4766-a21d-56e7b4168d7a@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce9a801d-c28b-4480-a402-488448836a1f@proxmox.com>
Am 29.04.25 um 11:07 schrieb Daniel Kral:
> On 4/28/25 14:46, Fiona Ebner wrote:
>> I feel like we should trigger auto-migration for strict colocation
>> rules. I.e. apply the rules earlier in select_service_node(), before the
>> "keep current node" early return.
>>
>> With nofailback=0, we do not keep the current node when node priorities
>> change for HA groups or the service's group changes, so it feels
>> consistent to do the same for colocation rules. We'll need to be careful
>> not to get a "both services now migrate towards each other" switch-up
>> scenario of course.
>
> What scenario would that be? Or do you mean just disallowing migrating
> services contradicting the HA (colocation) rules?
I just meant we need to be careful when implementing if we want to apply
new rules directly/honor them while services are running. E.g. say a new
rule vm:101<->vm:102 is introduced, with 101 on node A and 102 on node
B. Then the HA manager should only issue a migration command 101 to B or
102 to A, but not both of course.
>> We also don't hinder migrating against group priorities, where, with
>> nofailback=0, it will migrate straight back again. This can be improved
>> of course, but nothing new, so I'd consider it orthogonal to the
>> colocation implementation here.
>
> Yes, it would improve UX to add migration blockers for these in the
> future as the info could be exposed there without putting too much
> dependency between pve-manager and pve-ha-manager.
>
> I'll try to add the blockers for colocation rules for v1 or a follow-up.
Might be better as a follow-up/separate series, to not blow up the
series here too much.
_______________________________________________
pve-devel mailing list
pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-devel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-29 9:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-25 15:12 [pve-devel] [RFC cluster/ha-manager 00/16] HA colocation rules Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH cluster 1/1] cfs: add 'ha/rules.cfg' to observed files Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 01/15] ignore output of fence config tests in tree Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 17:49 ` [pve-devel] applied: " Thomas Lamprecht
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 02/15] tools: add hash set helper subroutines Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 17:53 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-04-03 12:16 ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-11 11:24 ` Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 03/15] usage: add get_service_node and pin_service_node methods Daniel Kral
2025-04-24 12:29 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-25 7:39 ` Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 04/15] add rules section config base plugin Daniel Kral
2025-04-24 13:03 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-25 8:29 ` Daniel Kral
2025-04-25 9:12 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-25 13:30 ` Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 05/15] rules: add colocation rule plugin Daniel Kral
2025-04-03 12:16 ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-11 11:04 ` Daniel Kral
2025-04-25 14:06 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-29 8:37 ` Daniel Kral
2025-04-29 9:15 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-07 8:41 ` Daniel Kral
2025-04-25 14:05 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-29 8:44 ` Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 06/15] config, env, hw: add rules read and parse methods Daniel Kral
2025-04-25 14:11 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 07/15] manager: read and update rules config Daniel Kral
2025-04-25 14:30 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-29 8:04 ` Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 08/15] manager: factor out prioritized nodes in select_service_node Daniel Kral
2025-04-28 13:03 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 09/15] manager: apply colocation rules when selecting service nodes Daniel Kral
2025-04-03 12:17 ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-11 15:56 ` Daniel Kral
2025-04-28 12:46 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-29 9:07 ` Daniel Kral
2025-04-29 9:22 ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2025-04-28 12:26 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-28 14:33 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-29 9:39 ` Daniel Kral
2025-04-29 9:50 ` Daniel Kral
2025-04-30 11:09 ` Daniel Kral
2025-05-02 9:33 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-07 8:31 ` Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 10/15] sim: resources: add option to limit start and migrate tries to node Daniel Kral
2025-04-28 13:20 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 11/15] test: ha tester: add test cases for strict negative colocation rules Daniel Kral
2025-04-28 13:44 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 12/15] test: ha tester: add test cases for strict positive " Daniel Kral
2025-04-28 13:51 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-09 11:22 ` Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 13/15] test: ha tester: add test cases for loose " Daniel Kral
2025-04-28 14:44 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-09 11:20 ` Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 14/15] test: ha tester: add test cases in more complex scenarios Daniel Kral
2025-04-29 8:54 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-29 9:01 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-25 15:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager 15/15] test: add test cases for rules config Daniel Kral
2025-03-25 16:47 ` [pve-devel] [RFC cluster/ha-manager 00/16] HA colocation rules Daniel Kral
2025-04-24 10:12 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-01 1:50 ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2025-04-01 9:39 ` Daniel Kral
2025-04-01 11:05 ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-04-03 12:26 ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-24 10:12 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-24 10:12 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-25 8:36 ` Daniel Kral
2025-04-25 12:25 ` Fiona Ebner
2025-04-25 13:25 ` Daniel Kral
2025-04-25 13:58 ` Fiona Ebner
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=6f50fe21-7b15-4766-a21d-56e7b4168d7a@proxmox.com \
--to=f.ebner@proxmox.com \
--cc=d.kral@proxmox.com \
--cc=f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com \
--cc=pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
Service provided by Proxmox Server Solutions GmbH | Privacy | Legal