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From: Lukas Wagner <l.wagner@proxmox.com>
To: Dominik Csapak <d.csapak@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 many 00/52] revamp notifications; smtp endpoints; system mail
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:03:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69565345-fbc5-478c-a2cf-4c83b5f1bba1@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80bd1a0b-6435-482a-bca0-3ee49e7dd1ce@proxmox.com>



On 11/17/23 09:41, Dominik Csapak wrote:
> one additional comment to the ux:
> 
> the match field could use a bit of improvement:
> 
> the docs describe the current fields, but for users that
> don't deep dive into the docs first it may be confusing having
> a simple text input field for that
> 
> at least when the type is 'exact' we could offer a
> dropdown for the 'type' value (can still be editable)

I'm actually evaluating if it would make sense to have a separate
'match-type' match rule. That one would use the 'type' field
in the notification metadata, but would be a bit more obvious to use for 
the user.

I think filtering notifications by type is probably going to be one of 
the most common things a user wants to do. Right now, if a user only
cares about a subset of notification types, e.g. backups and 
replication, a matcher would could look like this:

matcher: test
     mode any
     match-field exact:type=vzdump
     match-field exact:type=replication

Here, we have to use the 'any' mode, so this is awkward, if we also want 
to filter based on severity.


Alternatively, a regex-based solution could be used:

matcher: test2
     match-field regex:type=^(vzdump|replication)$

This requires regex knowledge, and the resulting regular expression can 
become very long if one wants to match many other types of notifications.

A 'match-type' rule would simplify this by simply allowing one to list 
all notification types on wants to match, eg.

matcher: test3
     match-type vzdump,replication


For this 'specialized' match-rule we could easily add a list of known
values in a drop-down (first hardcoded in the UI, later retrieved via an 
API call)

> 
> in the mid/long term i think having a backend generated list
> of those somehow would make sense (i.e. some kind
> of 'registering' and an endpoint that lists the types,
> or other metadata) but i think that was planned by you anyway
> (or something along those lines?)
> 

Yup, that's on my todo-list, having something like a notification
registry, where we can register notification types, their templates
(probably separate templates for plain text/HTML, as I don't quite like
how rendering from a single template turned out in the end, too finicky 
and lacking flexibility), and the params needed to render the template.
That way we can enumerate them in the UI quite easily (and
also auto-generate the list of notifications in the docs)

> also it would be good to have a link to the docs on the
> filter edit panel to the relevant section
> (e.g. for such things as the types/metadata/etc.)
> 
Noted, will be added in a follow-up.

-- 
- Lukas




  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-20  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-14 12:59 Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 debcargo-conf 01/52] cherry-pick chumsky 0.9.2 from debian unstable Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 16:15   ` [pve-devel] applied: " Thomas Lamprecht
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 debcargo-conf 02/52] update lettre to 0.11.1 Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 16:15   ` [pve-devel] applied: " Thomas Lamprecht
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 03/52] notify: introduce Error::Generic Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 04/52] notify: factor out notification content into its own type Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 05/52] notify: replace filters and groups with matcher-based system Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 06/52] notify: add calendar matcher Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 07/52] notify: matcher: introduce common trait for match directives Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 08/52] notify: let a matcher always match if it has no matching directives Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 09/52] sys: email: add `forward` Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 10/52] notify: add mechanisms for email message forwarding Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 11/52] notify: add PVE/PBS context Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 12/52] notify: add 'smtp' endpoint Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 13/52] notify: add api for smtp endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 14/52] notify: add 'disable' parameter for matchers and targets Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox 15/52] notify: add built-in config and 'origin' parameter Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-perl-rs 16/52] notify: adapt to new matcher-based notification routing Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-perl-rs 17/52] notify: add bindings for smtp API calls Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-perl-rs 18/52] pve-rs: notify: remove notify_context for PVE Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-perl-rs 19/52] notify: add 'disable' parameter Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-perl-rs 20/52] notify: support 'origin' paramter Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-cluster 21/52] notify: adapt to matcher based notification system Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-guest-common 22/52] vzdump: deprecate mailto/mailnotification/notification-{target, policy} Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-ha-manager 23/52] env: switch to matcher-based notification system Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 24/52] api: notification: remove notification groups Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 25/52] api: notification: add new matcher-based notification API Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 26/52] ui: dc: remove unneeded notification events panel Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 27/52] vzdump: adapt to new matcher based notification system Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 28/52] api: apt: adapt to matcher-based notifications Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 29/52] api: replication: adapt to matcher-based notification system Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 30/52] test: fix vzdump notification test Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 31/52] ui: vzdump: remove left-overs from target/policy based notifications Lukas Wagner
2023-11-16 11:52   ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager] ui: fix backup job create Dominik Csapak
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 32/52] ui: dc: config: show notification panel again Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 33/52] notify: add API routes for smtp endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 34/52] api: notification: add disable and origin params Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 35/52] api: notification: simplify ACLs for notification Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-widget-toolkit 36/52] notification ui: add target selector for matcher Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-widget-toolkit 37/52] notification ui: remove filter setting for targets Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-widget-toolkit 38/52] notification ui: remove notification groups Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-widget-toolkit 39/52] notification ui: rename filter to matcher Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-widget-toolkit 40/52] notification: matcher: add UI for matcher editing Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-widget-toolkit 41/52] notification ui: unprotected mailto-root target Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-widget-toolkit 42/52] noficiation: matcher edit: make 'field' an editable combobox Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-widget-toolkit 43/52] panel: notification: add gui for SMTP endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-widget-toolkit 44/52] notification ui: add enable checkbox for targets/matchers Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-widget-toolkit 45/52] notification ui: add column for 'origin' Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-docs 46/52] notifications: update docs to for matcher-based notifications Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-docs 47/52] notifications: document SMTP endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-docs 48/52] notifications: document 'comment' option for targets/matchers Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-docs 49/52] notifications: add documentation for system mail forwarding Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-docs 50/52] notifications: change to simplified ACL structure Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 12:59 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-mail-forward 51/52] feed forwarded mails into proxmox_notify Lukas Wagner
2023-11-14 13:00 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-mail-forward 52/52] update d/control Lukas Wagner
2023-11-16 11:57 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH widget-toolkit 0/2] follow-ups for notification series Dominik Csapak
2023-11-16 11:57   ` [pve-devel] [PATCH widget-toolkit 1/2] notification matcher: improve handling empty and invalid values Dominik Csapak
2023-11-16 11:57   ` [pve-devel] [PATCH widget-toolkit 2/2] notification matcher: improve wording for mode Dominik Csapak
2023-11-17  8:41 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 many 00/52] revamp notifications; smtp endpoints; system mail Dominik Csapak
2023-11-20  9:03   ` Lukas Wagner [this message]
2023-11-20  9:11     ` Dominik Csapak
2023-11-20  9:49       ` Lukas Wagner
2023-11-20  9:11     ` Thomas Lamprecht
2023-11-17 15:31 ` [pve-devel] applied-series: " Thomas Lamprecht

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