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From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
To: "Fiona Ebner" <f.ebner@proxmox.com>,
	"Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>,
	"Proxmox VE development discussion" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [RFC qemu-server] apt hook: warn against using 'upgrade' command
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 09:57:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5f4007c3-97be-4cc9-a746-ccc72ca659f4@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d544faec-5319-4f00-baa8-01fbd7a197bd@proxmox.com>

Am 09/09/2024 um 09:52 schrieb Fiona Ebner:
> Am 09.09.24 um 09:48 schrieb Fabian Grünbichler:
>> given that I also use `apt upgrade` from time to time (habit from being an unstable user ;)), and that it might alienate power users coming from Debian, I'd prefer this to be a non-interactive warning with the text "disarmed" a bit?
>>
>> something like
>>
>> !! WARNING !!
>> Since Proxmox VE follows a rolling release model, using 'upgrade' can lead to a system being stuck on outdated versions, or in rare cases, break upon upgrading. Use 'dist-upgrade' or 'full-upgrade' instead.
>> !! WARNING !!

All right, albeit I find the "!! WARNING !!" still rather a bit to scary then.

Maybe just an extra newline above and below and then something like your wording:

NOTE: Proxmox VE follows a rolling release model, so using the 'upgrade' command [...]

FWIW, you could also make this more generic for easier re-use, like:

NOTE: Proxmox projects follow [...]

and ship it in a common package, maybe even an extra one that is only recommended,
not hard-dependency, so the power user can remove the warning if they don't care
(or are daring)


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      reply	other threads:[~2024-09-09  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-06 10:40 Fiona Ebner
2024-09-06 10:42 ` Fiona Ebner
2024-09-06 11:01 ` Dominik Csapak
2024-09-06 16:54   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-09-06 12:16 ` Alexander Zeidler
2024-09-06 16:56   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-09-06 16:58 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-09-09  7:48   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-09  7:52     ` Fiona Ebner
2024-09-09  7:57       ` Thomas Lamprecht [this message]

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