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From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
To: "Proxmox VE development discussion" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	"Fabian Ebner" <f.ebner@proxmox.com>,
	"Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH guest-common 1/1] vzdump: schema: add 'notes' and 'protected' properties
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 19:25:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3fc10567-ee00-5c5c-3879-131327d1a5ab@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c52b1a7-c53f-27de-f072-f8ddab32e102@proxmox.com>

On 16.03.22 12:04, Fabian Ebner wrote:
> Am 16.12.21 um 13:12 schrieb Fabian Ebner:
>> In command_line(), notes are printed, quoted, but otherwise as is,
>> which is a bit ugly for multi-line notes. But it is part of the
>> commandline.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Fabian Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
>> ---
>>  src/PVE/VZDump/Common.pm | 14 +++++++++++++-
>>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/src/PVE/VZDump/Common.pm b/src/PVE/VZDump/Common.pm
>> index 83d7413..5bb35ec 100644
>> --- a/src/PVE/VZDump/Common.pm
>> +++ b/src/PVE/VZDump/Common.pm
>> @@ -233,7 +233,19 @@ my $confdesc = {
>>  	type => 'string',
>>  	description => 'Backup all known guest systems included in the specified pool.',
>>  	optional => 1,
>> -    }
>> +    },
>> +    notes => {
>> +	type => 'string',
>> +	description => "Notes to add to the backup(s).",
>> +	requires => 'storage',
>> +	optional => 1,
>> +    },
> 
> Quoting off-list discussion here, where it belongs and so we don't
> forget about it ;)
> 
> With regard to fixing https://bugzilla.proxmox.com/show_bug.cgi?id=438
> after all those years.
> 
> Fabian G.:
> we could offer something like a simple template system that allows
> substitution of certain variables (like name, or source node
> hostname/clustername, ..). or just a boolean switch for setting VM/CT
> $HOSTNAME from $CLUSTER/$NODENAME (or an enum, with
> [job-comment,hostname,long,none] where long is that, and hostname is
> just the guest hostname, and job-comment is the comment of the vzdump
> job if one is set)
> 
> Me:
> The template variant would be the most flexible one and would avoid the
> need for a second vzdump option besides --notes. Ideally, support for it
> would be there from the beginning though, as otherwise it will stop
> working for a user wanting to literally set $HOSTNAME when we add it ;)
> The downside is that it doesn't match the volume-level --notes option,
> but I don't think that should be a big deal.
> 
> Fabian G.:
> well it could just be called notes-template for vzdump to disambiguate?


fwiw, I believe I commented that approach in the internal chat a while ago,
but as its search functions are abysmal I don't find it anymore.

IIRC, just extend what we have now and allow a fixed set of {VARS} (vmid,
guest name, host name, job-id, ..?).

While extending one has a slight chance of changing an existing setup I find
this very unlikely in this specific case, as we had no such feature whatsoever
and it makes not sense in any practical example to use such special strings
for a backup comment.

That said, if one can whip up another reason besides backward compat for
having a separate flag to turn this on/off then feel free to comment.

I mean, for the backup jobs itself it could have some value to differ
between the comment about the job itself and a comment template for the
resulting backups.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-16 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-16 12:12 [pve-devel] [PATCH-SERIES storage/manager/guest-common/docs] improvements for protected backups Fabian Ebner
2021-12-16 12:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage 1/2] list volumes: also return backup type for backups Fabian Ebner
2022-03-16 16:42   ` [pve-devel] applied: " Thomas Lamprecht
2021-12-16 12:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage 2/2] plugins: allow limiting the number of protected backups per guest Fabian Ebner
2022-03-16 16:42   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2022-03-17  8:03     ` Fabian Ebner
2022-03-17  8:11       ` Thomas Lamprecht
2021-12-16 12:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager 1/6] vzdump: backup file list: drop unused parameter Fabian Ebner
2021-12-16 12:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager 2/6] vzdump: backup limit: only count unprotected backups Fabian Ebner
2021-12-16 12:12 ` [pve-devel] [RFC manager 3/6] ui: storage edit: retention: add max-protected-backups setting Fabian Ebner
2021-12-16 12:12 ` [pve-devel] [RFC manager 4/6] ui: storage creation: retention: dynamically adapt max-protected-backups Fabian Ebner
2021-12-16 12:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH docs 1/2] storage: switch to prune-backups in examples Fabian Ebner
2021-12-16 12:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH docs 2/2] vzdump/storage: mention protected backups limit and give an example Fabian Ebner
2021-12-16 12:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH guest-common 1/1] vzdump: schema: add 'notes' and 'protected' properties Fabian Ebner
2022-03-16 11:04   ` Fabian Ebner
2022-03-16 18:25     ` Thomas Lamprecht [this message]
2022-03-17  7:57       ` Fabian Ebner
2022-03-17  8:07         ` Thomas Lamprecht
2022-03-17  8:18           ` Fabian Ebner
2022-03-17  8:20             ` Thomas Lamprecht
2021-12-16 12:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager 5/6] vzdump: support setting protected status and notes Fabian Ebner
2021-12-16 12:12 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager 6/6] ui: backup: allow setting protected and notes for manual backup Fabian Ebner
2021-12-20 10:31 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH-SERIES storage/manager/guest-common/docs] improvements for protected backups Dominik Csapak
2021-12-21 15:11   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2021-12-22  7:02     ` Dominik Csapak
2022-01-03  9:12       ` Fabian Ebner
2022-03-10  7:46 ` Fabian Ebner

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