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From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	Stefan Hanreich <s.hanreich@proxmox.com>,
	"DERUMIER, Alexandre" <alexandre.derumier@groupe-cyllene.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [RFC cluster/manager/network 0/6] Add support for DHCP servers to SDN
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 14:40:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a7dd1a1-d6ca-43cc-9bfa-a123c692bc6c@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7980640a-da18-9da7-88cb-f8602c9339d4@proxmox.com>

Am 13/09/2023 um 13:50 schrieb Stefan Hanreich:
> On 9/13/23 13:37, Thomas Lamprecht wrote:
>> Am 13/09/2023 um 10:54 schrieb Stefan Hanreich:
>>> With dnsmasq there is even the possibility of running scripts (via --dhcp-script, see the docs [1]) when a lease is added / changed / deleted. But as far as I can tell this can not be used to override the IP that dnsmasq provides via DHCP, so it is probably not really useful for our use-case.
>>
>>
>> Getting a IP from IPAM and generating a simple MAC to IP mapping
>> actively on guest start, i.e., before the VM or CT would actually
>> run, would be enough though.
>>
>> This sounds relatively simple and would avoid most issues without
>> backing us into a corner for possible more complex/flexible solutions
>> in the future.
> 
> Sounds good. We would then remove the mapping on shutdown / stop, I suppose? How about Hibernate / Pause? I can see a case for both here..

Yeah, VM hibernate/suspension is genreally a bit icky, time can also
be way off on resume if the guest OS (services) doesn't detects this.

But here I think we can model it after reality, where such a lease
is kept until expiry and then freed for reuse, if the VM gets resumed
again it needs to be able to handle this just like a suspend/hibernate
on a bare metal PC or laptop needs to be able to do and ask for a new
lease, which has then be allocated already on resume by our API – it
just might not be the original one from before the suspension.
I hope I didn't manage to describe this in a too convoluted way, also
actively.

But tldr: yes, remove on stop/shutdown/suspend as it will be freshly
generated again before next start/resume anyway.

Not sure how dnsmasq handles such reloads, especially at cold boot
where it might happen thousands of times in a relatively short period.




  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-13 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-08 13:42 Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-08 13:42 ` [pve-devel] [RFC pve-cluster 1/6] cluster files: add dhcp.cfg Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-08 13:43 ` [pve-devel] [RFC pve-manager 2/6] sdn: regenerate DHCP config on reload Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-08 13:43 ` [pve-devel] [RFC pve-network 3/6] sdn: dhcp: add abstract class for DHCP plugins Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-08 13:43 ` [pve-devel] [RFC pve-network 4/6] sdn: dhcp: subnet: add DHCP options to subnet configuration Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-11  4:03   ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-09-13  8:37     ` Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-08 13:43 ` [pve-devel] [RFC pve-network 5/6] sdn: dhcp: add DHCP plugin for dnsmasq Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-08 13:43 ` [pve-devel] [RFC pve-network 6/6] sdn: dhcp: regenerate config for DHCP servers on reload Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-11  3:53 ` [pve-devel] [RFC cluster/manager/network 0/6] Add support for DHCP servers to SDN DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-09-13  8:18   ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-09-13  8:54   ` Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-13  9:26     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-09-13 11:37     ` Thomas Lamprecht
2023-09-13 11:43       ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-09-13 11:50       ` Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-13 12:40         ` Thomas Lamprecht [this message]
2023-09-13 12:50         ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-09-13 13:05           ` Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-13 13:21             ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-09-13 13:48               ` Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-13 13:52                 ` Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-14 13:15                   ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-09-20 21:48               ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-09-26 11:20                 ` Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-26 13:07                   ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-09-26 14:12                     ` Stefan Hanreich
2023-09-26 16:55                       ` DERUMIER, Alexandre

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