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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: "DERUMIER, Alexandre" <alexandre.derumier@groupe-cyllene.com>,
	"pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	"aderumier@odiso.com" <aderumier@odiso.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 1/1] cpuconfig: add new x86-64-vX models
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:48:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33c99c7a-2bc1-8826-2d27-787f4ad52a89@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c00e1a5a2d9752cddb0ab527fdaae191d293050e.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>

Am 07.06.23 um 12:57 schrieb DERUMIER, Alexandre:
>>
>> So again, sounds like the xsave feature is required for the osxsave
>> feature to even make sense.
>>
> The problem is that xsaves is not supported on all intel/amd cpu, 
> 
> older model don't seem to support xsaves too  (intel only since
> sandybridge , amd since epyc v1)
> https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/master/target/i386/cpu.c#L3050
> 
> 
> 
> but also newer model depending of firmware revision
> 
> "target/i386: EPYC-Rome model without XSAVES"
> https://github.com/qemu/qemu/commit/fb00aa61267c8b9c57a2d1a1fa1e336d02e3bcd1
> 

AFAIU, xsaves with the additional s is just an optional sub-feature of
xsave:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPUID#EAX%3D0Dh%3A_XSAVE_features_and_state-components

Note that QEMU has both, a xsave and an xsaves CPU flag.

If I run the cpuid-dump2.c script in my VM with

-cpu
qemu64,+abm,+aes,+avx,+avx2,+bmi1,+bmi2,enforce,+f16c,+fma,+kvm_pv_eoi,+kvm_pv_unhalt,+movbe,+pni,+popcnt,+sse4.1,+sse4.2,+ssse3,xsave

I get

cpu=bdver4 -mmmx -mno-3dnow -msse -msse2 -msse3 -mssse3 -mno-sse4a
-mcx16 -msahf -mmovbe -maes -mno-sha -mno-pclmul -mpopcnt -mabm -mno-lwp
-mfma -mno-fma4 -mno-xop -mbmi -mbmi2 -mno-tbm -mavx -mavx2 -msse4.2
-msse4.1 -mlzcnt -mno-rtm -mno-hle -mno-rdrnd -mf16c -mno-fsgsbase
-mno-rdseed -mno-prfchw -mno-adx -mfxsr

here -> -mxsave

-mno-xsaveopt -mno-avx512f -mno-avx512er -mno-avx512cd -mno-avx512pf
-mno-prefetchwt1 -mno-clflushopt -mno-xsavec

here -> -mno-xsaves

-mno-avx512dq -mno-avx512bw -mno-avx512vl -mno-avx512ifma
-mno-avx512vbmi -mno-clwb -mno-pcommit

So there is -mxsave, but also -mno-xsaves.

But couldn't find from which models onward xsave is supported from a
quick search.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-07 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-02 10:05 [pve-devel] [PATCH-SERIES v4 qemu-server/manager] add and set x86-64-v2-AES as default model for new vms Alexandre Derumier
2023-06-02 10:05 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 1/1] cpuconfig: add new x86-64-vX models Alexandre Derumier
2023-06-06 12:09   ` Fiona Ebner
2023-06-06 13:36     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-06-07  8:31       ` Fiona Ebner
2023-06-07 10:57         ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-06-07 11:25           ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-06-07 11:48           ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2023-06-07 14:11             ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-06-07 15:29               ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2023-06-02 10:05 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 1/1] qemu: processor : set x86-64-v2-AES as default cputype for create wizard Alexandre Derumier
2023-06-06 12:47   ` Fiona Ebner

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