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From: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
To: Daniel Kral <d.kral@proxmox.com>,
	Wolfgang Bumiller <w.bumiller@proxmox.com>
Cc: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [RFC container] setup: remove deprecated dsa from ssh host key generation
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 10:46:28 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2144670364.9427.1751013988849@192.168.2.153> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84d9fbef-bcb2-466b-8601-0ebb1d59b005@proxmox.com>


> Daniel Kral <d.kral@proxmox.com> hat am 27.06.2025 10:20 CEST geschrieben:
> 
>  
> On 6/27/25 07:04, Fabian Grünbichler wrote:
> > 
> >> Wolfgang Bumiller <w.bumiller@proxmox.com> hat am 26.06.2025 13:36 CEST geschrieben:
> >>
> >>   
> >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:56:31AM +0200, Daniel Kral wrote:
> >>> OpenSSH 10.0 removes support for the DSA signature algorithm [0], which
> >>> is the base version that will be shipped for Debian 13 trixie [1]. Since
> >>> it has been marked deprecated for some time and generating DSA
> >>> signatures with OpenSSH 10.0 will fail, remove it.
> >>
> >> We should probably actively remove existing dsa host keys in case a
> >> container template ships them, just to make sure older distro containers
> >> won't end up all sharing the same DSA key when created on a trixie
> >> pve...
> >>
> >> In fact, maybe we should remove all files matching
> >> `/etc/ssh/ssh_host_*` in the setup code, in case there are types we
> >> missed?
> > 
> > that sounds like a good idea, but should probably be visibly logged.
> > 
> > for legacy distros (which are not the best fit for containers anyway)
> > it's always possible to generate keys if needed inside the container
> > afterwards..
> 
> So something like
> 
>      sub remove_existing_ssh_host_keys {
>          my ($self, $conf) = @_;
> 
>          my $ssh_dir = "$self->{rootdir}/etc/ssh";
> 
>          return if !-d $ssh_dir;
> 
>          my $keyfiles = [];
>          PVE::Tools::dir_glob_foreach(
>              $ssh_dir,
>              qr/ssh_host_.*/,
>              sub {
>                  my ($key_filename) = @_;
> 
>                  next if $self->ct_is_file_ignored($key_filename);
> 
>                  print "Removing pre-existing ssh host key 
> '$key_filename' ...\n";
> 
>                  push $keyfiles->@*, $key_filename;
>              }
>          );
> 
>          $self->protected_call(sub {
>              for my $key_filename ($keyfiles->@*) {
>                  $self->ct_unlink($key_filename);
>              }
>          });
>      }
> 
> and calling it in PVE::LXC::Setup::Base::post_create_hook(...), so that 
> unmanaged containers are not affected by this?

we already have PVE::LXC::Setup::rewrite_ssh_host_keys which AFAICT is
called unconditionally in Setup::post_create_hook even for unmanaged
containers, given that precedent I think we can just extend that..

while we are at it we could add .ignore support if we really want to
have an option of skipping deletion and regeneration..


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  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-27  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-25  9:56 Daniel Kral
2025-06-26 11:36 ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2025-06-27  5:04   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-06-27  8:20     ` Daniel Kral
2025-06-27  8:46       ` Fabian Grünbichler [this message]
2025-06-27  8:59         ` Daniel Kral
2025-06-27  9:06           ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-06-27  9:44         ` Daniel Kral
2025-06-27 10:11           ` Fabian Grünbichler

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