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From: "Michael Köppl" <m.koeppl@proxmox.com>
To: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: [pve-devel] [PATCH container/docs/ha-manager/manager/widget-toolkit/qemu-server v3 00/11] fix #6613: update HA rules upon resource deletion
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2025 16:58:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250930145848.263162-1-m.koeppl@proxmox.com> (raw)

This patch series aims to fix #6613 [0]. Although an implementation was
proposed in the past, it was not applied since it was unclear how to
handle the case where the removed resource is the last resource in a
rule.

The approach in this patch series is the following:
- With the purge param activated (default), the
  resource is removed from any rule referencing it.
- Without the purge param, rules are left untouched, making the removal
  of resources from rules "opt-out", as was suggested in the previous
  implementation [1].
- If the resource was the last resource in the rule *and* the purge
  param is set, the rule will also be deleted.
- For guest destruction, the "Purge from job configurations" option will
  also set the purge parameter for removing the HA resource
- The purge param is set by default for resource removal in the GUI and
  CLI

After some back-and-forth, I settled in this approach as the most
intuitive and transparent. Alternative approaches considered were the
following:
- Updating rules even without the purge flag set, but failing and
  showing an error to the user if a rule would be deleted, prompting the
  user to enable the purge flag. This approach seems to be to
  restrictive and IMO doesn't add any UX value.
- By default not setting the purge flag. This would by default leave
  "zombie" rules with non-existent resources. This is IMO intransparent
  if it happens by default. Users might be removing resources, not even
  knowing they're leaving behind rules that still reference said
  resources.

Changes since v2:
- Rebase on latest master
- Split up widget-toolkit patches to make review easier. The intention
  for patches 1/4 to 3/4 of widget-toolkit is to keep the functionality
  of SafeDestroy intact (no changes in behavior for SafeDestroyGuest,
  SafeDestroyStorage, and other SafeDestroy dialogs), only adding
  additional functionality that is then moved to ConfirmRemoveDialog in
  4/4, where the default settings are then changed in
  ConfirmRemoveDialog and SafeDestroy explicitly sets the parameters to
  keep behavior intact.
- Instead of replacing SafeDestroy with ConfirmRemoveDialog and
  requiring additional changes to windows extending SafeDestroy, make
  SafeDestroy extend ConfirmRemoveDialog, encapsulating the specific
  settings of a SafeDestroy dialog. This also makes the original
  follow-up series obsolete [2].

Thanks to @Daniel and @Thomas for their review and feedback on v2!

[0] https://bugzilla.proxmox.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6613
[1] https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/c004b755-ba3c-46cd-b559-ee2c131d97fc@proxmox.com
[2] https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/20250924161714.434858-1-m.koeppl@proxmox.com/

pve-ha-manager:

Michael Köppl (2):
  fix #6613: update rules containing the resource to be deleted
  api: add purge parameter for resource deletion

 src/PVE/API2/HA/Resources.pm | 10 +++++++++-
 src/PVE/HA/Config.pm         | 13 ++++++++++++-
 2 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)


qemu-server:

Michael Köppl (1):
  fix #6613: pass purge param to delete_service_from_config

 src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm | 4 +++-
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)


pve-container:

Michael Köppl (1):
  fix #6613: pass purge param to delete_service_from_config

 src/PVE/API2/LXC.pm | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)


proxmox-widget-toolkit:

Michael Köppl (4):
  window: refactor construction of SafeDestroy items
  window: introduce dangerous parameter to SafeDestroy
  window: make buttons in SafeDestroy configurable
  window: add more general base dialog, make SafeDestroy concrete

 src/Makefile                      |   1 +
 src/window/ConfirmRemoveDialog.js | 247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 src/window/SafeDestroy.js         | 196 ++----------------------
 3 files changed, 257 insertions(+), 187 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 src/window/ConfirmRemoveDialog.js


pve-manager:

Michael Köppl (2):
  ui: add ConfirmRemoveResource window
  ui: use ConfirmRemoveResource window for removing resources

 www/manager6/Makefile                        |  1 +
 www/manager6/ha/Resources.js                 | 16 ++++++--
 www/manager6/window/ConfirmRemoveResource.js | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++
 3 files changed, 54 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 www/manager6/window/ConfirmRemoveResource.js


pve-docs:

Michael Köppl (1):
  add notes about effects of purge flag for resource and guest removal

 ha-manager.adoc | 4 ++++
 pct.adoc        | 3 +++
 qm.adoc         | 3 +++
 3 files changed, 10 insertions(+)


Summary over all repositories:
  13 files changed, 346 insertions(+), 195 deletions(-)

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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-30 14:58 Michael Köppl [this message]
2025-09-30 14:58 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager v3 1/2] fix #6613: update rules containing the resource to be deleted Michael Köppl
2025-09-30 14:58 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH ha-manager v3 2/2] api: add purge parameter for resource deletion Michael Köppl
2025-09-30 14:58 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v3 1/1] fix #6613: pass purge param to delete_service_from_config Michael Köppl
2025-09-30 14:58 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH container " Michael Köppl
2025-09-30 14:58 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH widget-toolkit v3 1/4] window: refactor construction of SafeDestroy items Michael Köppl
2025-09-30 14:58 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH widget-toolkit v3 2/4] window: introduce dangerous parameter to SafeDestroy Michael Köppl
2025-09-30 14:58 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH widget-toolkit v3 3/4] window: make buttons in SafeDestroy configurable Michael Köppl
2025-09-30 14:58 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH widget-toolkit v3 4/4] window: add more general base dialog, make SafeDestroy concrete Michael Köppl
2025-09-30 14:58 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager v3 1/2] ui: add ConfirmRemoveResource window Michael Köppl
2025-09-30 14:58 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager v3 2/2] ui: use ConfirmRemoveResource window for removing resources Michael Köppl
2025-09-30 14:58 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH docs v3 1/1] add notes about effects of purge flag for resource and guest removal Michael Köppl

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