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From: Christoph Heiss <c.heiss@proxmox.com>
To: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: [pve-devel] [PATCH docs v5 11/11] qm: document conntrack state migration for live migrations
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 11:45:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250730094549.263805-12-c.heiss@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250730094549.263805-1-c.heiss@proxmox.com>

Signed-off-by: Christoph Heiss <c.heiss@proxmox.com>
---
Changes v2 -> v3:
  * new patch

Changes v3 -> v4:
  * no changes

Changes v4 -> v5:
  * mention that NAT setups are most likely broken

 qm.adoc | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)

diff --git a/qm.adoc b/qm.adoc
index bb87004..55633fb 100644
--- a/qm.adoc
+++ b/qm.adoc
@@ -1671,6 +1671,24 @@ For Live Migration to work, there are some things required:
   configured, but it cannot be guaranteed - so please test before deploying
   such a setup in production.
 
+Conntrack State Migration
+^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+
+NOTE: Conntrack state migration is considered best-effort only and might not
+work, as it heavily depends on the network setup. For example, setups using
+xref:sysadmin_network_masquerading[source address masquerading (SNAT)] on the
+host will most likely *not* work.
+
+Conntrack is a Linux kernel mechanism to enable a stateful firewall by tracking
+individual connection. When live migrating running VMs, active in- and/or
+outbound connections *might* get interrupted as soon as the VM starts running on
+the target host, as the new host node does not have the same conntrack entries
+and thus the firewall can drop packets.
+
+Conntrack state migration copies all conntrack entries on the host for the
+live-migrated VM to the target node and afterwards flushes the migrated entries
+from the conntrack table on the source node.
+
 Offline Migration
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
-- 
2.49.0



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-30  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-30  9:45 [pve-devel] [PATCH firewall/qemu-server/manager/docs v5 00/11] fix #5180: migrate conntrack state on live migration Christoph Heiss
2025-07-30  9:45 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH proxmox-firewall v5 01/11] firewall: add connmark rule with VMID to all guest chains Christoph Heiss
2025-07-30  9:45 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH firewall v5 02/11] " Christoph Heiss
2025-07-30  9:45 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH firewall v5 03/11] firewall: helpers: add sub for flushing conntrack entries by mark Christoph Heiss
2025-07-30  9:45 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v5 04/11] qmp helpers: allow passing structured args via qemu_objectadd() Christoph Heiss
2025-07-30  9:45 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v5 05/11] api2: qemu: add module exposing node migration capabilities Christoph Heiss
2025-07-30  9:45 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v5 06/11] fix #5180: dbus-vmstate: add daemon for QEMUs dbus-vmstate interface Christoph Heiss
2025-07-30  9:45 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v5 07/11] fix #5180: migrate: integrate helper for live-migrating conntrack info Christoph Heiss
2025-07-30  9:45 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server v5 08/11] migrate: flush old VM conntrack entries after successful migration Christoph Heiss
2025-07-30  9:45 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager v5 09/11] api2: capabilities: expose new qemu/migration endpoint Christoph Heiss
2025-07-30  9:45 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager v5 10/11] ui: window: Migrate: add checkbox for migrating VM conntrack state Christoph Heiss
2025-07-30  9:45 ` Christoph Heiss [this message]
2025-07-30 23:48   ` [pve-devel] applied: [PATCH docs v5 11/11] qm: document conntrack state migration for live migrations Thomas Lamprecht
2025-07-30 22:45 ` [pve-devel] applied-series: [PATCH firewall/qemu-server/manager/docs v5 00/11] fix #5180: migrate conntrack state on live migration Thomas Lamprecht

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